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Horse profile

Original Thought (IRE)

9yo gelding (at last run, May 2009) · Last trainer Ben De Haan · Last owner William A Tyrer
by Entrepreneur (GB) out of Troyanos (GB) (Troy)
12 runs · 9 courses · from Mar 2005
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 31 May 2009 — 6,352 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2009 Last raced off OR 100
KTB Profile

Original Thought (IRE) is yet to win from 12 starts, though has placed 7 times. Best effort: 2nd of 10 at Worcester (May 2006). Last raced off 100, 10lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 10lb off peak
Official rating100↓ 10lb off peak
100 100–110

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 111C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newbury, 24 Mar 2006 Official rating 100 at the last run, 31 May 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 126C · median 111
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good6121C112—
Good to Soft2100C100—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m4126C109.5—
1m5f – 2m3121C114—
Over 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 12 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Entrepreneur (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 5.1% of 216 runs since Jan 2008 (28 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm7228.6%+23.5—
Good to Firm4400%−5.10 from 2
Good4948.2%+3.10 from 8
Good to Soft2514%−1.10 from 2
Soft3612.8%−2.3—
Heavy1600%−5.1—
Standard (AW)3937.7%+2.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2000%−5.1—
6f – 7f4449.1%+4—
1m – 1m1f10110%+4.9—
1m2f – 1m4f1715.9%+0.8—
1m5f – 2m5835.2%+0.10 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f4324.7%−0.40 from 2
2m5f – 3m1800%−5.10 from 5
Over 3m600%−5.10 from 2

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Troyanos (GB) (Troy)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 8 0 0% −8.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 7 0 0% −7.00
Class 3 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newbury 3 0 0% −3.00
Worcester 2 0 0% −2.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
Over 3m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Noel Fehily 4 0 0% −4.00
Dave Crosse 2 0 0% −2.00
Richard Cosgrave 2 0 0% −2.00
Liam Heard 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert Thornton 1 0 0% −1.00
Jimmy McCarthy 1 0 0% −1.00
Mick Fitzgerald 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 2 0 0% −2.00
2006 6 0 0% −6.00
2005 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 9 0 0% −9.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Chase 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
31 May 09+37d Stratford Anthea Satterthwaite 40th Birthday Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 26.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran PU/9 — 10-11 100— Liam Heard 16/1
24 Apr 09+876d Chepstow Sun Trade Windows Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 18 ran PU/18 — 11-7 100— Robert Thornton 14/1
30 Nov 06+194d Leicester John O'Gaunt Maiden Chase Class 4 · 22.5f · Good · 7 ran F/7 — 11-0 110— Jimmy McCarthy 7/1
20 May 06+31d Worcester Ladbrokes Port Street Evesham Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 24f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 2/10 8 11-0 110100C Noel Fehily 11/8
19 Apr 06+26d Cheltenham Endsleigh Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 24f · Good · 15 ran 3/15 3½ 11-0 108108C Noel Fehily 10/1
24 Mar 06+20d Newbury stanjamesuk.com Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 24.5f · Good · 13 ran 3/13 9 11-2 108111C Dave Crosse 10/3
04 Mar 06+16d Newbury Vodafone 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 24.5f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 2/9 nk 11-3 108126C Noel Fehily 9/4J
16 Feb 06+62d Huntingdon Advance Plumbing 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 25f · Good · 13 ran 2/13 5 11-0 10898C Noel Fehily 12/1
16 Dec 05+19d Windsor Attheraces.com 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle (Div 2) Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 4/14 2 11-0 —100C Mick Fitzgerald 9/2
27 Nov 05+221d Newbury Sporting Index 'NH' Maiden Hurdle Class 3 · 16.5f · Good · 17 ran 5/17 nk 11-2 —114C Dave Crosse 20/1
20 Apr 05+46d Worcester Betfred NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Good · 17 ran 3/17 2½ 10-4 —121C Richard Cosgrave 6/1
05 Mar 05 Doncaster NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16.5f · Good · 15 ran 3/15 5 10-4 —113C Richard Cosgrave 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Original Thought (IRE) won?
Original Thought (IRE) has yet to win, from 12 archived starts between 2005 and 2009. Placed 7 times in total (58.3% of starts).
Who trained Original Thought (IRE)?
Original Thought (IRE) was trained by Ben De Haan on the most recent run on record, at Stratford on 31 May 2009.
Who is Original Thought (IRE)'s sire?
Original Thought (IRE) is by Entrepreneur (GB) out of Troyanos (GB), whose sire is Troy.
What is Original Thought (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 100, from the run on 31 May 2009. The highest on record is 110.
What is Original Thought (IRE)'s sire's record?
Entrepreneur (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 5.1% of 216 runs since Jan 2008 (28 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from March 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.