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Horse profile

Saigon (GB)

3yo colt (at last run, Oct 2012) · Last trainer James Toller · Last owner P C J Dalby R D Schuster
by Royal Applause (GB) out of Luanshya (GB) (First Trump)
17 runs · 7 courses · from Jun 2011
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 13 Oct 2012 — 5,114 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2012 · 2nd of 12 2 wins · Newbury & Yarmouth Last raced off OR 105
KTB Profile

Saigon (GB) is 2 from 17, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Rose Bowl Stakes - Sponsored By Compton Beauchamp Estates Ltd at Newbury (Jul 2011). Hasn't won since Jul 2011. Both wins came on good or faster ground (0 from 5 on softer).

Based on 17 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster
Official rating105↓ 5lb off peak
105 103–110

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 99A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newmarket, 13 Oct 2012 Official rating 105 at the last run, 13 Oct 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 17 figures · best 107A · median 96
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Firm7107A96—
Good to Soft4100A94—
Good4100A97—
Soft1———
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f10107A96—
1m – 1m1f7100B98—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 17 figures from 17 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Royal Applause (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 12,434 runs since Jan 2008 (774 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 3.4% from 323.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm189189.5%+0.9—
Good to Firm2,6082188.4%−0.22 from 7
Good2,65527310.3%+1.70 from 4
Good to Soft1,2331169.4%+0.80 from 4
Soft1,225917.4%−1.20 from 1
Heavy323113.4%−5.2—
Standard (AW)4,2013378%−0.60 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1,4841399.4%+0.8—
6f – 7f5,4364748.7%+0.12 from 10
1m – 1m1f2,5182118.4%−0.20 from 7
1m2f – 1m4f1,6181418.7%+0.1—
1m5f – 2m728547.4%−1.2—
2m1f – 2m4f420307.1%−1.5—
2m5f – 3m193136.7%−1.9—
Over 3m3725.4%−3.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Luanshya (GB) (First Trump)

9 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Round The Island (GB) (11 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m½f; the highest grade won is Listed (Tabaret (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Round The Island (GB)97116f–7fClass 5
Tabaret (GB)8155f–6fListed
Aussie Blue (IRE)7751m–1m½fClass 5
Luna Moon (GB)526f–7fClass 4
African Breeze (GB)1216fClass 5
Copperbelt (GB)30——
Addock And Egg (GB)20——
Fury And Fire (GB)20——
Curio (GB)130——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 7 2 29% +13.00
Good to Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 15 1 7% −8.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 5 1 1 100% +12.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newmarket 6 0 0% −6.00
Newbury 4 1 25% +3.00
Goodwood 3 0 0% −3.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Yarmouth 1 1 100% +12.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 10 2 20% +10.00
1m – 1m1f 7 0 0% −7.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Kirsty Milczarek 13 2 15% +7.00
Johnny Murtagh 2 0 0% −2.00
Ryan Moore 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert Havlin 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 15 2 13% +5.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 10 0 0% −10.00
2011 7 2 29% +13.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
13 Oct 12+15d Newmarket Darley Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 9f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 2/12 3 8-13 10599A Kirsty Milczarek 25/1
28 Sep 12+7d Newmarket Nayef Joel Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 2) Class 1 · 8f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 1 8-13 10595A Kirsty Milczarek 25/1
21 Sep 12+26d Newbury Dubai Duty Free Cup (Listed) (Str) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 3/9 1½ 8-13 10597A Kirsty Milczarek 9/1
26 Aug 12+23d Goodwood Greene King Supreme Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 6/7 nse 8-9 10589A Kirsty Milczarek 8/1
03 Aug 12+22d Goodwood RSA Thoroughbred Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 8f · Good · 14 ran 6/14 ½ 9-0 10798A Kirsty Milczarek 28/1
12 Jul 12+23d Newmarket Portland Place Properties Conditions Stakes Class 3 · 8f · Soft · 6 ran 3/6 1¾ 9-6 107100B Kirsty Milczarek 9/1
19 Jun 12+19d Ascot St James's Palace Stakes (British Champions Series) (Group 1) (Rnd) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 7/16 ½ 9-0 104100A Kirsty Milczarek 100/1
31 May 12+12d Sandown Betfair Heron Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 6/10 ¾ 9-3 10795A Kirsty Milczarek 20/1
19 May 12+14d Newmarket poptelecom.co.uk King Charles II Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 4/7 hd 9-4 10893A Ryan Moore 7/2
05 May 12+196d Newmarket Qipco 2000 Guineas Stakes (204th Running) (British Champions Series) (Group 1) Class 1 · 8f · Good To Soft · 18 ran 14/18 1½ 9-0 11079A Robert Havlin 66/1
22 Oct 11+14d Newbury Worthington's Highfield Social Club Stakes (Registered As The Horris Hill Stakes) (Group 3) (Str) Class 1 · 7f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 2/14 2 8-12 11096A Johnny Murtagh 15/8F
08 Oct 11+21d Newmarket Emaar Middle Park Stakes (Group 1) Class 1 · 6f · Good · 16 ran 6/16 shd 8-12 10696A Johnny Murtagh 10/1
17 Sep 11+14d Newbury Dubai Duty Free Mill Reef Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 6f · Good · 9 ran 3/9 nk 9-1 104100A Kirsty Milczarek 9/2
03 Sep 11+36d Kempton (AW) Betfred Bonus King Sirenia Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 6f · Standard · 7 ran 3/7 ½ 9-0 10393A Kirsty Milczarek 3/1
29 Jul 11+14d Goodwood Tanqueray Richmond Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 6f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 5/10 hd 9-0 —94A Kirsty Milczarek 8/1
15 Jul 11+15d Newbury Rose Bowl Stakes - Sponsored By Compton Beauchamp Estates Ltd (Listed) Class 1 · 6f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 1/10 9-0 —97A Kirsty Milczarek 6/1
30 Jun 11 Yarmouth British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E.B.F. Maiden Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 1/10 9-3 —107A Kirsty Milczarek 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Saigon (GB) won?
Saigon (GB) won 2 of 17 archived starts between 2011 and 2012, a strike rate of 11.8%. Placed 6 times in total (35.3% of starts).
Who trained Saigon (GB)?
Saigon (GB) was trained by James Toller on the most recent run on record, at Newmarket on 13 October 2012.
Who is Saigon (GB)'s sire?
Saigon (GB) is by Royal Applause (GB) out of Luanshya (GB), whose sire is First Trump.
What going does Saigon (GB) prefer?
Saigon (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 2 wins from 7 starts (28.6%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Saigon (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 105, from the run on 13 October 2012. The highest on record is 110.
What is Saigon (GB)'s sire's record?
Royal Applause (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 12,434 runs since Jan 2008 (774 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 3.4% from 323.
Who are Saigon (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Luanshya (GB), Saigon (GB) has 9 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Round The Island (GB) (11). Highest grade won: Listed (Tabaret (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from June 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.