Saint Or Sinner (IRE)
Saint Or Sinner (IRE) is 1 from 10. Hasn't won since Jul 2019. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 7 on softer).
- 1–10Wins / Runs
- 10%Strike rate
- 1 (10%)Placed
- −7.25£1 level staken=10 at SP
- 0.93Fair A/E n=10 · 0.80 incl. margin
- 91Highest OR
- 50dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 85
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 6 | 85A | 69 | — |
| Good | 2 | 77C | 77 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 85A | 78 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 77C | 67 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 77A | 74 | — |
Of 10 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1) · did not complete (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,858 runs since Jan 2008 (1,463 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 18 | 1 | 5.6% | −5.7 | — |
| Good to Firm | 553 | 66 | 11.9% | +0.6 | — |
| Good | 5,170 | 649 | 12.6% | +1.3 | 1 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 3,294 | 386 | 11.7% | +0.4 | — |
| Soft | 5,034 | 502 | 10% | −1.3 | 0 from 6 |
| Heavy | 2,716 | 303 | 11.2% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Standard (AW) | 73 | 2 | 2.7% | −8.6 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −11.3 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 9 | 1 | 11.1% | −0.2 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 58 | 3 | 5.2% | −6.1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3,855 | 401 | 10.4% | −0.9 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5,478 | 599 | 10.9% | −0.4 | 1 from 3 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5,806 | 700 | 12.1% | +0.8 | 0 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 1,649 | 205 | 12.4% | +1.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them The Paparrazi Kid (IRE) (6 wins).
The wins came over 2m–2m4f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (The Paparrazi Kid (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Paparrazi Kid (IRE) | 23 | 6 | 2m–2m4f | Grade 2 |
| Rourke's Cross (IRE) | 13 | 2 | 2m–2m4f | — |
| Pershing Missile (IRE) | 11 | 0 | — | — |
| Dandy Bridge (IRE) | 10 | 0 | — | — |
| Live At Five (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Aqua Traverse (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Good | 3 | 1 | 33% | −0.25 |
| Heavy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Downpatrick | 2 | 1 | 50% | +0.75 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Naas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Perth | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 3 | 1 | 33% | −0.25 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jack Wildman | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jack Kennedy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| E O'Connell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Keith Donoghue | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Denis O'Regan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Richard Johnson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr J J Codd | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.75 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 9 | 1 | 11% | −6.25 |
| Blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2019 | 6 | 1 | 17% | −3.25 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| NH Flat | 2 | 1 | 50% | +0.75 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 · 4 runs | ||||||||||
| 09 Oct 20+42d | Downpatrick | MB McGrady & Co, Chartered Accountants Handicap Hurdle (80-95) | 8/12 | 4¾ | 11-5 | 88 | 85A | 84A | E O'Connell | 14/1 |
| 28 Aug 20+36d | Down Royal | Ladbrokes Handicap Hurdle (80-102) | 9/10 | 3¾ | 11-2 | 90 | 78A | 88A | Keith Donoghue | 25/1 |
| 23 Jul 20+15d | Limerick | Newcastle West Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) | 8/14 | 11 | 11-10 | 91 | 31C | 87C | Denis O'Regan | 25/1 |
| 08 Jul 20+242d | Bellewstown | Hibernia Steel Products Ltd Mares Maiden Hurdle | 12/13 | 3¾ | 11-2 | — | 77C | 79C | Jack Wildman | 28/1 |
| 2019 · 6 runs | ||||||||||
| 09 Nov 19+28d | Naas | Irish Stallion Owners Ebf Maiden Hurdle | 16/25 | hd | 10-12 | — | — | 89C | Jack Wildman | 50/1 |
| 12 Oct 19+9d | Fairyhouse | St Margaret's Gaa Race Day Maiden Hurdle | 6/15 | 15 | 11-5 | — | 67C | 100C | Jack Kennedy | 33/1 |
| 03 Oct 19+44d | Clonmel | Kilsheelan Mares Maiden Hurdle | 6/16 | 9 | 11-0 | — | 71C | 90C | Jack Wildman | 33/1 |
| 20 Aug 19+20d | Sligo | Betvictor Bet 5 Get 40 Offer Mares Maiden Hurdle | PU/9 | — | 11-7 | — | — | — | Jack Kennedy | 12/1 |
| 31 Jul 19+16d | Perth | Watch Irish Racing On RacingTV Intermediate Open NH Flat Race | 3/7 | 9 | 11-0 | — | 53A | 105B | Richard Johnson | 4/5F |
| 15 Jul 19 | Downpatrick | Two N & M's Flat Race | 1/7 | 11-7 | — | 77A | 112A | Mr J J Codd | 7/4 | |
Quick answers
- How many races has Saint Or Sinner won?
- Saint Or Sinner (IRE) won 1 of 10 archived starts between 2019 and 2020, a strike rate of 10%. Placed 1 time in total (10% of starts).
- Who trained Saint Or Sinner?
- Saint Or Sinner (IRE) was trained by Gordon Elliott on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 9 October 2020.
- Who is Saint Or Sinner's sire?
- Saint Or Sinner (IRE) is by Milan (GB) out of Banbury Cross (IRE), whose sire is Supreme Leader.
- What going does Saint Or Sinner prefer?
- Saint Or Sinner (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Saint Or Sinner's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 9 October 2020. The highest on record is 91.
- What is Saint Or Sinner's sire's record?
- Milan (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,858 runs since Jan 2008 (1,463 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Saint Or Sinner's siblings?
- Out of Banbury Cross (IRE), Saint Or Sinner (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: The Paparrazi Kid (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (The Paparrazi Kid (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.