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Horse profile

Saint Or Sinner (IRE)

6yo mare (at last run, Oct 2020) · Last trainer Gordon Elliott · Last owner Pioneer Racing
by Milan (GB) out of Banbury Cross (IRE) (Supreme Leader)
10 runs · 9 courses · from Jul 2019
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 9 Oct 2020 — 2,210 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2020 · 8th of 12 Won at Downpatrick First-time headgear LTO Last raced off OR 88
KTB Profile

Saint Or Sinner (IRE) is 1 from 10. Hasn't won since Jul 2019. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 7 on softer).

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 85 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Downpatrick, 9 Oct 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 85A · median 74
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft685A69—
Good277C77—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m385A78—
1m5f – 2m377C67—
2m1f – 2m4f277A74—

Of 10 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 88A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Down Royal, 28 Aug 2020 Official rating 88 at the last run, 9 Oct 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 112A · median 89
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft6105B89—
Good2112A95.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m4105B94.5—
2m5f – 3m388A87—
2m1f – 2m4f2112A101—

Of 10 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Milan (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,858 runs since Jan 2008 (1,463 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1815.6%−5.7—
Good to Firm5536611.9%+0.6—
Good5,17064912.6%+1.31 from 3
Good to Soft3,29438611.7%+0.4—
Soft5,03450210%−1.30 from 6
Heavy2,71630311.2%−0.10 from 1
Standard (AW)7322.7%−8.6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f300%−11.3—
1m – 1m1f9111.1%−0.2—
1m2f – 1m4f5835.2%−6.1—
1m5f – 2m3,85540110.4%−0.90 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f5,47859910.9%−0.41 from 3
2m5f – 3m5,80670012.1%+0.80 from 3
Over 3m1,64920512.4%+1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Banbury Cross (IRE) (Supreme Leader)

6 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them The Paparrazi Kid (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m4f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (The Paparrazi Kid (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
The Paparrazi Kid (IRE)2362m–2m4fGrade 2
Rourke's Cross (IRE)1322m–2m4f—
Pershing Missile (IRE)110——
Dandy Bridge (IRE)100——
Live At Five (IRE)40——
Aqua Traverse (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 3 1 33% −0.25
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Downpatrick 2 1 50% +0.75
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 3 1 33% −0.25

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jack Wildman 3 0 0% −3.00
Jack Kennedy 2 0 0% −2.00
E O'Connell 1 0 0% −1.00
Keith Donoghue 1 0 0% −1.00
Denis O'Regan 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Johnson 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr J J Codd 1 1 100% +1.75

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 9 1 11% −6.25
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 4 0 0% −4.00
2019 6 1 17% −3.25

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 8 0 0% −8.00
NH Flat 2 1 50% +0.75

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2020 · 4 runs
09 Oct 20+42d Downpatrick MB McGrady & Co, Chartered Accountants Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 22.5f · Yielding · 12 ran 8/12 4¾ 11-5 8885A84A E O'Connell 14/1
28 Aug 20+36d Down Royal Ladbrokes Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 24.5f · Yielding To Soft · 10 ran 9/10 3¾ 11-2 9078A88A Keith Donoghue 25/1
23 Jul 20+15d Limerick Newcastle West Handicap Hurdle (80-95) (Div 2) 24f · Yielding · 14 ran 8/14 11 11-10 9131C87C Denis O'Regan 25/1
08 Jul 20+242d Bellewstown Hibernia Steel Products Ltd Mares Maiden Hurdle 16.5f · Good · 13 ran 12/13 3¾ 11-2 —77C79C Jack Wildman 28/1
2019 · 6 runs
09 Nov 19+28d Naas Irish Stallion Owners Ebf Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 25 ran 16/25 hd 10-12 ——89C Jack Wildman 50/1
12 Oct 19+9d Fairyhouse St Margaret's Gaa Race Day Maiden Hurdle 16f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 6/15 15 11-5 —67C100C Jack Kennedy 33/1
03 Oct 19+44d Clonmel Kilsheelan Mares Maiden Hurdle 20f · Yielding · 16 ran 6/16 9 11-0 —71C90C Jack Wildman 33/1
20 Aug 19+20d Sligo Betvictor Bet 5 Get 40 Offer Mares Maiden Hurdle 17.5f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 11-7 ——— Jack Kennedy 12/1
31 Jul 19+16d Perth Watch Irish Racing On RacingTV Intermediate Open NH Flat Race Class 4 · 16f · Soft · 7 ran 3/7 9 11-0 —53A105B Richard Johnson 4/5F
15 Jul 19 Downpatrick Two N & M's Flat Race 19f · Good · 7 ran 1/7 11-7 —77A112A Mr J J Codd 7/4

Quick answers

How many races has Saint Or Sinner won?
Saint Or Sinner (IRE) won 1 of 10 archived starts between 2019 and 2020, a strike rate of 10%. Placed 1 time in total (10% of starts).
Who trained Saint Or Sinner?
Saint Or Sinner (IRE) was trained by Gordon Elliott on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 9 October 2020.
Who is Saint Or Sinner's sire?
Saint Or Sinner (IRE) is by Milan (GB) out of Banbury Cross (IRE), whose sire is Supreme Leader.
What going does Saint Or Sinner prefer?
Saint Or Sinner (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Saint Or Sinner's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 88, from the run on 9 October 2020. The highest on record is 91.
What is Saint Or Sinner's sire's record?
Milan (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 16,858 runs since Jan 2008 (1,463 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Saint Or Sinner's siblings?
Out of Banbury Cross (IRE), Saint Or Sinner (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: The Paparrazi Kid (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (The Paparrazi Kid (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.