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Second Thought (IRE)

4yo colt (at last run, Mar 2018) · Last trainer William Haggas · Last owner Liam Sheridan
by Kodiac (GB) out of Bobby Jane (GB) (Diktat)
11 runs · 7 courses · from May 2016
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 30 Mar 2018 — 3,120 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2018 · 2nd of 11 6 wins · Wolverhampton (AW), Kempton (AW) & Lingfield (AW) Beaten favourite LTO Last raced off OR 109
KTB Profile

Second Thought (IRE) is 6 from 11 in our archive, including 3 Listed wins. The biggest win we hold: the sunbets.co.uk Lady Wulfruna Stakes at Wolverhampton (AW) (Mar 2018). Hasn't won since Mar 2018. All 6 wins have come on the all-weather — 0 from 4 on turf. Last raced off a career-high mark of 109.

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins on AW OR at career high

Progeny in our archive

Progeny record

As a sire, Second Thought (IRE)’s progeny in our archive have won 1% of 104 runs since Jan 2008 (16 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sire
Good2400%−1
Good to Soft300%−1
Soft900%−1
Heavy800%−1
Standard (AW)6011.7%+0.7
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sire
Under 6f900%−1
6f – 7f3512.9%+1.9
1m – 1m1f3500%−1
1m2f – 1m4f2500%−1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Official rating109At career-high mark
109 83–109

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 111 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton (AW), 22 Nov 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Flat 10 figures · best 128A · median 107.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)7120A109—
Good to Soft1———
Good1———
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f8128A104—
1m – 1m1f2111A110—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 102A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 10 Mar 2018 Official rating 109 at the last run, 30 Mar 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 11 figures · best 103B · median 99
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)7103B99—
Good289A86—
Good to Soft1———
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f8103B99.5—
1m – 1m1f299A97—
Under 6f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 23,515 runs since Jan 2008 (1,664 horses).

Strongest on firm going: 14.3% from 147. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 7.1% from 252.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1472114.3%+3.90 from 1
Good to Firm4,20849611.8%+1.4—
Good5,15154810.6%+0.20 from 2
Good to Soft2,3662189.2%−1.20 from 1
Soft2,4602188.9%−1.5—
Heavy675679.9%−0.5—
Standard (AW)8,50887110.2%−0.26 from 7
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f5,11759111.5%+1.10 from 1
6f – 7f11,5761,18610.2%−0.25 from 8
1m – 1m1f3,87939210.1%−0.31 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f1,9241829.5%−0.9—
1m5f – 2m696669.5%−0.9—
2m1f – 2m4f252187.1%−3.3—
2m5f – 3m6046.7%−3.7—
Over 3m1100%−10.4—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Forever Red (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 5f–6f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Forever Red (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Forever Red (IRE)835f–6fClass 5
Red Island (IRE)316fClass 6
Hope Of Life (IRE)50——
Rum Shack (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 7 6 86% +11.09
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 1 6 3 50% +4.35
Class 2 3 2 67% +3.38
Class 5 1 1 100% +0.36
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield (AW) 3 2 67% +2.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 2 2 100% +1.09
Kempton (AW) 2 2 100% +8.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 8 5 63% +4.09
1m – 1m1f 2 1 50% +4.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Robert Winston 5 3 60% +4.00
James Doyle 2 1 50% +4.00
Jim Crowley 2 0 0% −2.00
Ryan Moore 1 1 100% +0.73
Pat Cosgrave 1 1 100% +0.36

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2018 2 1 50% −0.27
2017 7 4 57% +8.00
2016 2 1 50% −0.64

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
30 Mar 18+20d Lingfield (AW) Sunbets All-weather Mile Championships Conditions Stakes Class 2 · 8f · Standard · 11 ran 2/11 1¼ 9-5 109109A95A James Doyle 11/8F
10 Mar 18+108d Wolverhampton (AW) sunbets.co.uk Lady Wulfruna Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Standard · 8 ran 1/8 9-6 107102A102A Ryan Moore 8/11F
22 Nov 17+46d Kempton (AW) British Stallion Studs EBF Hyde Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 8f · Standard To Slow · 12 ran 1/12 9-0 105111A99A James Doyle 5/1
07 Oct 17+15d Ascot John Guest Bengough Stakes (Group 3) Class 1 · 6f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 5/10 shd 9-1 10588B95A Jim Crowley 7/1
22 Sep 17+118d Newbury Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships Cup Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Good · 11 ran 6/11 1¼ 8-13 105106A89A Robert Winston 11/4F
27 May 17+43d Haydock Armstrong Aggregates Sandy Lane Stakes (Group 2) Class 1 · 6f · Firm · 7 ran 2/7 4½ 9-0 105128A101A Robert Winston 7/2
14 Apr 17+41d Lingfield (AW) 32red 3 Year Old All-weather Championships Conditions Stakes Class 2 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 1/10 9-5 10591A100A Robert Winston 11/8F
04 Mar 17+46d Lingfield (AW) 32Red Spring Cup Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 7f · Standard · 9 ran 1/9 9-1 104120A99A Robert Winston 13/8F
17 Jan 17+32d Kempton (AW) Smarter Bets With Matchbook Betting Exchange Conditions Stakes (Plus 10) Class 2 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 5 ran 1/5 9-2 83112C103B Robert Winston 3/1
16 Dec 16+202d Wolverhampton (AW) 10 Free At 32Red.com Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 9 ran 1/9 9-5 —95A81A Pat Cosgrave 4/11F
28 May 16 Salisbury Irish Stallion Farms Bathwick Tyres EBF Novice Stakes (Plus 10) Class 4 · 5f · Good · 8 ran 2/8 1 9-2 ——83A Jim Crowley 4/1

Quick answers

How many races has Second Thought (IRE) won?
Second Thought (IRE) won 6 of 11 archived starts between 2016 and 2018, a strike rate of 54.5%. Placed 9 times in total (81.8% of starts).
Who trained Second Thought (IRE)?
Second Thought (IRE) was trained by William Haggas on the most recent run on record, at Lingfield (AW) on 30 March 2018.
Who is Second Thought (IRE)'s sire?
Second Thought (IRE) is by Kodiac (GB) out of Bobby Jane (GB), whose sire is Diktat.
What going does Second Thought (IRE) prefer?
Second Thought (IRE) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 6 wins from 7 starts (85.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Second Thought (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 109, from the run on 30 March 2018. That is also the highest on record.
What is Second Thought (IRE)'s sire's record?
Kodiac (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.4% of 23,515 runs since Jan 2008 (1,664 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on firm going: 14.3% from 147. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 7.1% from 252.
Who are Second Thought (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Bobby Jane (GB), Second Thought (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Forever Red (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Forever Red (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Second Thought (IRE) sired winners?
As a sire, Second Thought (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 1% of 104 runs since Jan 2008 (16 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from May 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.