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Shir I Dont Know (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2023) · Last trainer Iain Jardine · Last owner I J Jardine
by Shirocco (GER) out of Liss Na Siog (IRE) (Old Vic)
8 runs · 6 courses · from Sep 2022
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 24 Mar 2023 — 1,322 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2023 · 4th of 5 Won at Ayr Last raced off OR 110
KTB Profile

Shir I Dont Know is a gelding who won one of eight starts over hurdles, the success coming in the weatherbysshop.co.uk Novices' Handicap Hurdle at Ayr in Feb 2023 at Class 4 level off an official rating of 103 on soft ground over 1m5f to 2m. All wins were at Class 4. He last ran at Musselburgh in Mar 2023 when fourth of five in a Class 4 novices' handicap off a mark of 110, which was also his career-high mark.

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Win at Class 4

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 107 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Perth, 22 Sep 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 107A · median 99
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft3105A103—
Good to Soft299B88—
Heavy269C65—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5103C77—
1m5f – 2m3107A105—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 133A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ayr, 1 Feb 2023 Official rating 110 at the last run, 24 Mar 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 133A · median 104
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Soft3133A100—
Good to Soft2113A108.5—
Heavy2105A104.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f5105A104—
1m5f – 2m3133A113—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 9,183 runs since Apr 2010 (921 horses).

Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.4% from 203.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm15320%+8.8—
Good to Firm343308.7%−2.5—
Good2,74231611.5%+0.30 from 1
Good to Soft1,81321812%+0.80 from 2
Soft2,47325810.4%−0.81 from 3
Heavy1,03112311.9%+0.70 from 2
Standard (AW)766769.9%−1.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2000%−11.2—
6f – 7f203157.4%−3.8—
1m – 1m1f401348.5%−2.7—
1m2f – 1m4f1,0911079.8%−1.4—
1m5f – 2m2,70028410.5%−0.71 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f2,69131611.7%+0.50 from 5
2m5f – 3m1,67122313.3%+2.1—
Over 3m4064511.1%−0.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2010 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Grand Conqueror (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m1½f–2m4½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Grand Conqueror (IRE)).

Family form: Grand Conqueror (IRE) won at Fontwell, 21 Oct 2026.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Grand Conqueror (IRE)932m1½f–2m4½fClass 3
Tamango (IRE)90——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 3 1 33% +7.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 6 1 17% +4.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ayr 2 1 50% +8.00
Catterick 2 0 0% −2.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m5f – 2m 3 1 33% +7.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Conor O'Farrell 4 0 0% −4.00
Dylan Johnston 2 1 50% +8.00
Nathan Moscrop 1 0 0% −1.00
Craig Nichol 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 3 1 33% +7.00
2022 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 1 17% +4.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 3 runs
24 Mar 23+51d Musselburgh Daikin Air Conditioning UK Novices' Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 5 ran 4/5 2¼ 11-7 11077C104C Dylan Johnston 11/4
01 Feb 23+20d Ayr weatherbysshop.co.uk Novices' Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 9 ran 1/9 11-0 103105A133A Dylan Johnston 9/1
12 Jan 23+21d Catterick EBF 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m3½f · Heavy · 6 ran 5/6 20 11-2 —61C104C Conor O'Farrell 50/1
2022 · 5 runs
22 Dec 22+20d Ayr Coral First For Racing 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m · Good To Soft · 14 ran 4/14 4¾ 11-4 —99B113A Nathan Moscrop 50/1
02 Dec 22+14d Sedgefield Join The Vickers Club At Vickers.Bet 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4f · Soft · 5 ran 3/5 4¾ 11-0 —103C100B Conor O'Farrell 33/1
18 Nov 22+19d Catterick Nick Sutton Happy 70th Birthday Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m3½f · Soft · 9 ran 6/9 12 11-0 —99C97C Conor O'Farrell 50/1
30 Oct 22+38d Carlisle Every Race Live On Racing TV Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 2m1f · Heavy · 8 ran 6/8 2¼ 11-0 —69C105A Conor O'Farrell 22/1
22 Sep 22 Perth Have Your Christmas Party At Perth Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 2m · Good · 9 ran 6/9 2¼ 11-2 —107A98A Craig Nichol 13/2

Quick answers

How many races has Shir I Dont Know won?
Shir I Dont Know (IRE) won 1 of 8 archived starts between 2022 and 2023, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 1 time in total (12.5% of starts).
Who trained Shir I Dont Know?
Shir I Dont Know (IRE) was trained by Iain Jardine on the most recent run on record, at Musselburgh on 24 March 2023.
Who is Shir I Dont Know's sire?
Shir I Dont Know (IRE) is by Shirocco (GER) out of Liss Na Siog (IRE), whose sire is Old Vic.
What going does Shir I Dont Know prefer?
Shir I Dont Know (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Shir I Dont Know's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 110, from the run on 24 March 2023. That is also the highest on record.
What is Shir I Dont Know's sire's record?
Shirocco (GER)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 9,183 runs since Apr 2010 (921 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.4% from 203.
Who are Shir I Dont Know's siblings?
Out of Liss Na Siog (IRE), Shir I Dont Know (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Grand Conqueror (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Grand Conqueror (IRE)). The wins came over 2m1½f–2m4½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from September 2022. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.