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Some Trainer (IRE)

11yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2007) · Last trainer J G Cromwell · Last owner M G K Syndicate
by Leading Counsel (USA) out of Miss Polymer (GB) (Doulab)
18 runs · 11 courses · from Mar 2005
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 Nov 2007 — 6,903 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2007 Last raced off OR 65
KTB Profile

Some Trainer (IRE) is yet to win from 18 starts, though has placed 6 times. Best effort: 3rd of 13 at Downpatrick (Nov 2007). Last raced off 65, 18lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 18 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 18lb off peak
Official rating65↓ 18lb off peak
65 65–83

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 87C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Downpatrick, 14 Nov 2007 Official rating 65 at the last run, 27 Nov 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 104C · median 64.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm3104C66—
Firm395C77—
Good287C75—
Soft262C46—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m4104C82—
2m1f – 2m4f462C54.5—
Over 3m295C80.5—

Of 18 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: no runner of known ability in the race — the level cannot be solved (6) · did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 18 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Leading Counsel (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 7% of 398 runs since Jan 2008 (43 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm500%−70 from 5
Good to Firm4436.8%−0.20 from 6
Good11597.8%+0.80 from 5
Good to Soft5923.4%−3.6—
Soft10298.8%+1.80 from 2
Heavy7256.9%−0.1—
Standard (AW)100%−7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m4724.3%−2.7—
2m1f – 2m4f12065%−20 from 6
2m5f – 3m171148.2%+1.20 from 8
Over 3m60610%+30 from 4

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Miss Polymer (GB) (Doulab)

3 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Dutsdale Dancer (IRE)20——
Along Came Polly (IRE)30——
Our Boy (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Downpatrick 5 0 0% −5.00
Down Royal 3 0 0% −3.00
Kilbeggan 2 0 0% −2.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford (RH) (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 8 0 0% −8.00
2m1f – 2m4f 6 0 0% −6.00
Over 3m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr K H Clarke 6 0 0% −6.00
Robbie Colgan 2 0 0% −2.00
D J Casey 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr C Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr C J Callow 1 0 0% −1.00
Tony Dobbin 1 0 0% −1.00
Brian Harding 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert Molloy 1 0 0% −1.00
T G M Ryan 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Carberry 1 0 0% −1.00
Ross Geraghty 1 0 0% −1.00
J P Elliott 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 15 0 0% −15.00
Hood + tongue tie + visor 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2007 3 0 0% −3.00
2005 15 0 0% −15.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 11 0 0% −11.00
Hurdle 7 0 0% −7.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
27 Nov 07+13d Sedgefield Wbx.Com Free Football Shirts Conditionals' Handicap Chase Class 5 · 26.5f · Good · 15 ran PU/15 — 9-10 65— Mr K H Clarke 14/1
14 Nov 07+74d Downpatrick ladbroke.com Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 22.5f · Good · 13 ran 3/13 ½ 10-6 7387C D J Casey 12/1
01 Sep 07+614d Down Royal Donnelly & Taggart Renault (QR) Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 22f · Good · 20 ran 16/20 1½ 9-11 7463C Mr C Hughes 33/1
26 Dec 05+8d Down Royal Adam & Ann Armstrong Memorial Handicap Chase (0-95) 20f · Yielding To Soft · 15 ran 6/15 dht 9-7 6730C Mr K H Clarke 14/1
18 Dec 05+67d Musselburgh 'Watch Live On Racing UK' Amateur Riders' Handicap Chase Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 3/10 9 9-7 6957C Mr C J Callow 10/1
12 Oct 05+4d Wetherby Spinal Research Day Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 25.5f · Good To Firm · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-1 79— Tony Dobbin 12/1
08 Oct 05+22d Hexham John Bryson Memorial Classified Chase Class 4 · 24f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 7/11 2 11-0 67— Brian Harding 16/1
16 Sep 05+7d Downpatrick Fosters Lager Carryduff Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 22f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 8/10 4½ 10-7 79— Robert Molloy 14/1
09 Sep 05+7d Kilbeggan Max Premium Irish Dog Food Handicap Chase (0-123) 25f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 5/11 8 9-7 7966C T G M Ryan 20/1
02 Sep 05+14d Down Royal Winning Post Cafe Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 24f · Firm · 15 ran 6/15 3½ 10-7 8177C Robbie Colgan 12/1
19 Aug 05+7d Kilbeggan Hibernian Life & Pensions Handicap Chase (0-95) 25f · Firm · 16 ran 4/16 ½ 10-5 6895C Paul Carberry 10/1
12 Aug 05+5d Tramore Ernst & Young Handicap Chase (0-95) 20f · Firm · 16 ran 13/16 3 9-13 7052C Mr K H Clarke 12/1
07 Aug 05+14d Downpatrick Www.patohare.com Handicap Hurdle (70-88) 22f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 3/13 3 10-8 81104C Mr K H Clarke 12/1
24 Jul 05+26d Wexford (RH) (IRE) Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase 20f · Soft · 14 ran 5/14 shd 9-12 7162C Mr K H Clarke 8/1
28 Jun 05+18d Sligo Sligo Park Handicap Hurdle (70-88) 20f · Firm · 16 ran 12/16 6 10-12 83— Robbie Colgan 7/1
10 Jun 05+28d Navan Keeping It Country Handicap Chase (0-109) 17f · Firm · 9 ran 3/9 2 9-3 78— Mr K H Clarke 12/1
13 May 05+62d Downpatrick Boru Vodka Handicap Chase (0-95) 23f · Good · 12 ran 3/12 5 9-13 66— Ross Geraghty 25/1
12 Mar 05 Downpatrick Bar-one Racing Freephone UK Handicap Chase (0-102) 23f · Good · 9 ran 9/9 1½ 9-10 69— J P Elliott 10/1

Quick answers

How many races has Some Trainer (IRE) won?
Some Trainer (IRE) has yet to win, from 18 archived starts between 2005 and 2007. Placed 6 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Some Trainer (IRE)?
Some Trainer (IRE) was trained by J G Cromwell on the most recent run on record, at Sedgefield on 27 November 2007.
Who is Some Trainer (IRE)'s sire?
Some Trainer (IRE) is by Leading Counsel (USA) out of Miss Polymer (GB), whose sire is Doulab.
What is Some Trainer (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 65, from the run on 27 November 2007. The highest on record is 83.
What is Some Trainer (IRE)'s sire's record?
Leading Counsel (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7% of 398 runs since Jan 2008 (43 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Some Trainer (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Miss Polymer (GB), Some Trainer (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from March 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.