11yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2007)· Last trainer J G Cromwell· Last owner M G K Syndicate
by Leading Counsel (USA) out of Miss Polymer (GB) (Doulab)
18 runs · 11 courses · from Mar 2005
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 27 Nov 2007 — 6,903 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2007Last raced off OR 65
KTB Profile
Some Trainer (IRE) is yet to win from 18 starts, though has placed 6 times. Best effort: 3rd of 13 at Downpatrick (Nov 2007). Last raced off 65, 18lb below the career-high mark.
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating65↓ 18lb off peak
6565–83
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
KTB Rating
Best recent KTB Rating87Cthe best of the last 3 rated runs · Downpatrick, 14 Nov 2007Official rating 65at the last run, 27 Nov 2007
What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →
Jumps 10 figures · best 104C · median 64.5
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm
3
104C
66
—
Firm
3
95C
77
—
Good
2
87C
75
—
Soft
2
62C
46
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 22 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m
4
104C
82
—
2m1f – 2m4f
4
62C
54.5
—
Over 3m
2
95C
80.5
—
Of 18 runs looked at, 8 have no figure: no runner of known ability in the race — the level cannot be solved (6) · did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).
KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 18 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Leading Counsel (USA)
Progeny in our archive have won 7% of 398 runs since Jan 2008 (43 horses).
Going
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
Firm
5
0
0%
−7
0 from 5
Good to Firm
44
3
6.8%
−0.2
0 from 6
Good
115
9
7.8%
+0.8
0 from 5
Good to Soft
59
2
3.4%
−3.6
—
Soft
102
9
8.8%
+1.8
0 from 2
Heavy
72
5
6.9%
−0.1
—
Standard (AW)
1
0
0%
−7
—
Distance (all codes)
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
1m5f – 2m
47
2
4.3%
−2.7
—
2m1f – 2m4f
120
6
5%
−2
0 from 6
2m5f – 3m
171
14
8.2%
+1.2
0 from 8
Over 3m
60
6
10%
+3
0 from 4
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Some Trainer (IRE) has yet to win, from 18 archived starts between 2005 and 2007. Placed 6 times in total (33.3% of starts).
Who trained Some Trainer (IRE)?
Some Trainer (IRE) was trained by J G Cromwell on the most recent run on record, at Sedgefield on 27 November 2007.
Who is Some Trainer (IRE)'s sire?
Some Trainer (IRE) is by Leading Counsel (USA) out of Miss Polymer (GB), whose sire is Doulab.
What is Some Trainer (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 65, from the run on 27 November 2007. The highest on record is 83.
What is Some Trainer (IRE)'s sire's record?
Leading Counsel (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7% of 398 runs since Jan 2008 (43 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Some Trainer (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Miss Polymer (GB), Some Trainer (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.
Some Trainer (IRE)·0–18·SR 0%
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