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Horse profile

Something Abouther (IRE)

8yo mare (at last run, Mar 2024) · Last trainer Padraig Roche · Last owner Shanahanmagniermaclennan
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Female (IRE) (Saddlers' Hall)
12 runs · 10 courses · from Dec 2020
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Mar 2024 — 949 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2024 · 1st of 7 Won last time out 3 wins · Thurles, Punchestown & Limerick
KTB Profile

Something Abouther won three of 12 starts on turf. All wins came over trips from 1m5f to 3m on good to soft or softer going, including the Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Beginners Chase at Thurles in Mar 2024 on heavy ground. She also won a mares maiden hurdle at Punchestown in Jun 2023 and a mares bumper at Limerick in Nov 2021. The mare, by Flemensfirth out of a Saddlers Hall mare, last ran at Thurles in Mar 2024 where she won.

Based on 12 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 148 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Punchestown, 10 Jun 2023

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 9 figures · best 165B · median 102
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft4139A102—
Good to Soft3165B148—
Heavy2102A100.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m5165B102—
2m5f – 3m3148B130—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 12 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 12 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 124B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Thurles, 16 Mar 2024 Official rating 116 at the last run, 15 Sep 2023

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 11 figures · best 132A · median 120
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft5132A118—
Heavy3124B120—
Good to Soft3125A122—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m7132A120—
2m5f – 3m3122A118—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 12 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 12 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.9—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.3—
Good4,05144110.9%−1—
Good to Soft2,93135412.1%+0.21 from 3
Soft5,87675112.8%+0.91 from 5
Heavy3,81444911.8%−0.11 from 4
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.9—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.9—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.31 from 7
2m1f – 2m4f6,07772411.9%01 from 1
2m5f – 3m5,25462211.8%−0.11 from 4
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Female (IRE) (Saddlers' Hall)

7 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Neddyvaughan (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m5f; the highest grade won is Listed (Slip Of The Tongue (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Neddyvaughan (IRE)3742m–2m5f—
Act In Time (IRE)2032m1f—
Coolaghknock Glebe (IRE)2132m2f–2m4f—
Slip Of The Tongue (IRE)2522mListed
Alice Johnston (IRE)2312m—
Clondaw Bertie (IRE)100——
Two Of Us Know Now (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 1 20% −0.50
Heavy 4 1 25% +1.00
Good to Soft 3 1 33% −0.75

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Naas 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 2 1 50% +2.50
Thurles 1 1 100% +4.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 1 100% +1.25
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 7 1 14% −2.50
2m5f – 3m 4 1 25% −1.75
2m1f – 2m4f 1 1 100% +4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Aidan Kelly 6 2 33% +1.25
Donagh Meyler 2 0 0% −2.00
Mark Walsh 1 0 0% −1.00
Aidan Coleman 1 0 0% −1.00
Miss M O'Sullivan 1 1 100% +3.50
Darragh O'Keeffe 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2024 2 1 50% +3.00
2023 6 1 17% −3.75
2021 2 1 50% +2.50
2020 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 9 1 11% −6.75
Chase 2 1 50% +3.00
NH Flat 1 1 100% +3.50

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
16 Mar 24+38d Thurles Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Beginners Chase 18f · Heavy · 7 ran 1/7 11-2 —102A124B Aidan Kelly 4/1
07 Feb 24+145d Fairyhouse Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Beginners Chase 21.5f · Heavy · 6 ran UR/6 — 11-2 ——— Aidan Kelly 4/1
15 Sep 23+44d Ballinrobe Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Handicap Hurdle 22f · Yielding · 10 ran 5/10 3½ 11-1 116102A118A Mark Walsh 13/8F
02 Aug 23+53d Galway Tote Always SP Or Better At Galway Handicap Hurdle 22.5f · Good To Yielding · 20 ran 5/20 1½ 10-13 114130C122A Aidan Kelly 9/1
10 Jun 23+37d Punchestown Aramark Ireland Mares Maiden Hurdle 22f · Good To Yielding · 18 ran 1/18 11-5 —148B116A Aidan Kelly 5/4F
04 May 23+35d Tipperary Hotel Minella Mares Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good To Yielding · 19 ran 2/19 14 11-7 —165B125A Aidan Coleman 5/1
30 Mar 23+19d Naas Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares Maiden Hurdle 16.5f · Yielding To Soft · 14 ran 3/14 nse 11-7 ——122A Donagh Meyler 9/4
11 Mar 23+450d Gowran Park Best Of Luck To The Irish At Cheltenham Mares Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 18 ran 3/18 1¼ 11-7 —99B119A Donagh Meyler 9/2
16 Dec 21+30d Naas Extra Places Everyday At BetVictor Mares Maiden Hurdle 16f · Yielding · 24 ran 7/24 1½ 11-2 —100C95C Aidan Kelly 14/1
16 Nov 21+321d Limerick Irish Stallion Farms EBF Mares (Ladies Pro/Am) Flat Race 16f · Yielding To Soft · 11 ran 1/11 11-4 —139A132A Miss M O'Sullivan 7/2
30 Dec 20+25d Limerick 'David Fitzgerald - Take It Easee' Maiden Hurdle 16f · Heavy · 18 ran 3/18 1¾ 10-11 ——120A Darragh O'Keeffe 80/1
05 Dec 20 Navan Kells Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 19 ran 11/19 hd 10-9 —102C90C Aidan Kelly 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Something Abouther (IRE) won?
Something Abouther (IRE) won 3 of 12 archived starts between 2020 and 2024, a strike rate of 25%. Placed 7 times in total (58.3% of starts).
Who trained Something Abouther (IRE)?
Something Abouther (IRE) was trained by Padraig Roche on the most recent run on record, at Thurles on 16 March 2024.
Who is Something Abouther (IRE)'s sire?
Something Abouther (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Female (IRE), whose sire is Saddlers' Hall.
What going does Something Abouther (IRE) prefer?
Something Abouther (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Something Abouther (IRE)'s official rating?
Something Abouther (IRE)'s highest official rating on record is 116.
What is Something Abouther (IRE)'s sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.9% of 17,274 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Something Abouther (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Female (IRE), Something Abouther (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Neddyvaughan (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Listed (Slip Of The Tongue (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–2m5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.