That'lldonowthen (IRE)
That'lldonowthen (IRE) is yet to win from 7 starts.
- 0–7Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −7.00£1 level staken=7 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=7 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 58Highest OR
- 11dBetween runs (median)
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9% of 2,167 runs since Mar 2009 (138 horses).
Strongest on good to soft going: 12% from 209. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12.2% from 403. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 6% from 199.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 22 | 4 | 18.2% | +9.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 372 | 30 | 8.1% | −0.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 500 | 47 | 9.4% | +0.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 209 | 25 | 12% | +3 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 312 | 31 | 9.9% | +0.9 | — |
| Heavy | 127 | 14 | 11% | +2 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 625 | 43 | 6.9% | −2.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 403 | 49 | 12.2% | +3.2 | 0 from 3 |
| 6f – 7f | 967 | 91 | 9.4% | +0.4 | 0 from 4 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 406 | 33 | 8.1% | −0.9 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 199 | 12 | 6% | −3 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 130 | 8 | 6.2% | −2.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 45 | 0 | 0% | −9 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 17 | 1 | 5.9% | −3.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Mar 2009 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Clerk's Choice (IRE) (6 wins).
The wins came over 1m1f–2m½f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Clerk's Choice (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Clerk's Choice (IRE) | 44 | 6 | 1m1f–2m½f | Class 2 |
| No Give Away (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class 5 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Yarmouth | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bath | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Haydock | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Under 6f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Luke Morris | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Liam Keniry | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sophie Doyle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Neil Callan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| J F Egan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 · 7 runs | |||||||||
| 03 Sep 09+22d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Williamhill.com/Bonus25 - Live Casino Dealers Claiming Stakes | 6/12 | 2¼ | 8-1 | 53 | 41A | Sophie Doyle | 40/1 |
| 12 Aug 09+6d | Yarmouth | Manny Bernstein Freephone 0800 821 821 Selling Stakes | 5/9 | 1¼ | 8-12 | 58 | 52A | Luke Morris | 12/1 |
| 06 Aug 09+10d | Bath | Freebets.co.uk Premier League Free Bets Selling Stakes | 6/8 | shd | 9-2 | 58 | 29A | Luke Morris | 14/1 |
| 27 Jul 09+11d | Yarmouth | HIPS At ecea.co.uk Selling Stakes | 6/15 | ½ | 8-11 | 58 | 55A | Liam Keniry | 20/1 |
| 16 Jul 09+13d | Leicester | Ladbrokes.com Selling Stakes | 5/9 | nse | 8-11 | — | 48A | Liam Keniry | 25/1 |
| 03 Jul 09+25d | Haydock | Glencroft Selling Stakes | 8/12 | 1¾ | 8-11 | — | 34A | Neil Callan | 25/1 |
| 08 Jun 09 | Windsor | sportingbet.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 15/15 | 10 | 9-3 | — | 49C | J F Egan | 16/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has That'lldonowthen won?
- That'lldonowthen (IRE) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts in 2009.
- Who trained That'lldonowthen?
- That'lldonowthen (IRE) was trained by J S Moore on the most recent run on record, at Wolverhampton (AW) on 3 September 2009.
- Who is That'lldonowthen's sire?
- That'lldonowthen (IRE) is by Chineur (FR) out of Credit Crunch (IRE), whose sire is Caerleon.
- What is That'lldonowthen's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 53, from the run on 3 September 2009. The highest on record is 58.
- What is That'lldonowthen's sire's record?
- Chineur (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 9% of 2,167 runs since Mar 2009 (138 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to soft going: 12% from 209. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 12.2% from 403. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 6% from 199.
- Who are That'lldonowthen's siblings?
- Out of Credit Crunch (IRE), That'lldonowthen (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Clerk's Choice (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Clerk's Choice (IRE)). The wins came over 1m1f–2m½f. As at Nov 2026.