Thunder Sun (FR)
Thunder Sun (FR) is 1 from 9, the win coming at Class 5 level. Hasn't won since Sep 2020. The win came on the all-weather — 0 from 4 on turf. Last raced off 65, 18lb below the career-high mark.
- 1–9Wins / Runs
- 11.1%Strike rate
- 2 (22.2%)Placed
- −5.50£1 level staken=9 at SP
- 1.37Fair A/E n=9 · 1.14 incl. margin
- 83Highest OR
- 139dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 86
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 14 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 5 | 87A | 82 | — |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 85A | 67 | — |
| Soft | 1 | — | — | — |
| Good | 1 | — | — | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 14 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 6 | 86B | 76.5 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2 | 87A | 86 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | — | — | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 13% of 8,304 runs since Jan 2008 (974 horses).
Weakest on heavy going: 9.1% from 452.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 14 | 3 | 21.4% | +8.4 | — |
| Good to Firm | 664 | 79 | 11.9% | −1.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Good | 1,658 | 235 | 14.2% | +1.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 1,201 | 138 | 11.5% | −1.5 | — |
| Soft | 1,342 | 156 | 11.6% | −1.4 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 452 | 41 | 9.1% | −3.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 2,971 | 427 | 14.4% | +1.4 | 1 from 5 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 413 | 53 | 12.8% | −0.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 3,208 | 420 | 13.1% | +0.1 | 1 from 6 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2,865 | 371 | 12.9% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 1,471 | 196 | 13.3% | +0.3 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 283 | 32 | 11.3% | −1.7 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 55 | 7 | 12.7% | −0.3 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 9 | 1 | 11.1% | −1.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
9 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Danceteria (FR) (6 wins).
The wins came over 6f–1m2½f; the highest grade won is Group 3 (Danceteria (FR)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Danceteria (FR) | 15 | 6 | 1m–1m2f | Group 3 |
| Blossomtime (GB) | 12 | 3 | 6f–1m | Listed |
| Sea Gardens (FR) | 8 | 1 | 1m2½f | — |
| Askania Nova (IRE) | 5 | 1 | 1m1f | — |
| Nectar De Rose (FR) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Ivory Rose (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Quinze De La Rose (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Roselyne (FR) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Bellagio (FR) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.50 |
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 5 | 1 | 20% | −1.50 |
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.50 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chelmsford City (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Windsor | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sandown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 6 | 1 | 17% | −2.50 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Morgan Cole | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Ryan Moore | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.50 |
| Trevor Whelan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Richard Kingscote | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 8 | 1 | 13% | −4.50 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2021 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2020 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +1.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 05 Aug 23+19d | Doncaster | UNISON Supporting Your Community Handicap | 7/11 | 2 | 8-13 | 65 | 75B | 67A | Morgan Cole | 66/1 |
| 17 Jul 23+42d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Handicap | 9/12 | 1½ | 9-2 | 70 | 86B | 61A | Morgan Cole | 80/1 |
| 05 Jun 23+12d | Wolverhampton (AW) | At The Races App Market Movers Handicap (Div 2) | 7/8 | 1½ | 8-9 | 76 | 78A | 43A | Morgan Cole | 100/1 |
| 24 May 23+538d | Kempton (AW) | Unibet More Boosts In More Races Handicap | 10/10 | 1½ | 8-9 | 78 | 66C | 49C | Morgan Cole | 150/1 |
| 02 Dec 21+178d | Chelmsford City (AW) | Betsi Handicap | 7/7 | 4¾ | 9-7 | 82 | 87A | 59A | Trevor Whelan | 33/1 |
| 07 Jun 21+35d | Leicester | Join Racing TV Now Handicap | 6/7 | 1¾ | 9-5 | 83 | 85A | 68A | Ryan Moore | 11/1 |
| 03 May 21+222d | Windsor | Visit attheraces.com/marketmovers Novice Stakes (Div 1) | 3/11 | 1¾ | 9-8 | — | 50A | 91A | Richard Kingscote | 9/4 |
| 23 Sep 20+62d | Kempton (AW) | Unibet Extra Place Offers Every Day EBF Novice Stakes (Div 2) | 1/10 | 9-5 | — | 82A | 86A | Ryan Moore | 5/2 | |
| 23 Jul 20 | Sandown | Martin Densham Memorial EBF Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) | 13/13 | 1¼ | 9-5 | — | 49C | 60A | Ryan Moore | 7/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Thunder Sun (FR) won?
- Thunder Sun (FR) won 1 of 9 archived starts between 2020 and 2023, a strike rate of 11.1%. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
- Who trained Thunder Sun (FR)?
- Thunder Sun (FR) was trained by Derek Shaw on the most recent run on record, at Doncaster on 5 August 2023.
- Who is Thunder Sun (FR)'s sire?
- Thunder Sun (FR) is by Siyouni (FR) out of Bal De La Rose (IRE), whose sire is Cadeaux Genereux.
- What going does Thunder Sun (FR) prefer?
- Thunder Sun (FR) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Thunder Sun (FR)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 65, from the run on 5 August 2023. The highest on record is 83.
- What is Thunder Sun (FR)'s sire's record?
- Siyouni (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 13% of 8,304 runs since Jan 2008 (974 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 9.1% from 452.
- Who are Thunder Sun (FR)'s siblings?
- Out of Bal De La Rose (IRE), Thunder Sun (FR) has 9 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Danceteria (FR) (6). Highest grade won: Group 3 (Danceteria (FR)). The wins came over 6f–1m2½f. As at Oct 2026.