Too Much Trouble (GB)
Too Much Trouble (GB) is 2 from 12. Hasn't won since Apr 2009. Each win came on a first visit to the course. Last raced off 85, 17lb below the career-high mark.
- 2–12Wins / Runs
- 16.7%Strike rate
- 2 (16.7%)Placed
- −7.79£1 level staken=12 at SP
- 1.10Fair A/E n=12 · 1.00 incl. margin
- 102Highest OR
- 139dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.5% of 4,143 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 49 | 4 | 8.2% | −0.3 | — |
| Good to Firm | 620 | 42 | 6.8% | −1.7 | 1 from 6 |
| Good | 1,015 | 95 | 9.4% | +0.9 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 538 | 60 | 11.2% | +2.7 | 1 from 1 |
| Soft | 706 | 58 | 8.2% | −0.3 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 253 | 22 | 8.7% | +0.2 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 962 | 72 | 7.5% | −1 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 53 | 9 | 17% | +8.5 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 774 | 67 | 8.7% | +0.2 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 840 | 59 | 7% | −1.5 | 1 from 3 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 972 | 88 | 9.1% | +0.6 | 1 from 7 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 894 | 77 | 8.6% | +0.1 | 0 from 2 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 435 | 42 | 9.7% | +1.2 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 143 | 8 | 5.6% | −2.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 32 | 3 | 9.4% | +0.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
7 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Bivouac (UAE) (8 wins).
The wins came over 7f–2m; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Shakopee (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Bivouac (UAE) | 43 | 8 | 1m–2m | Class 4 |
| Shakopee (GB) | 11 | 3 | 1m–1m4f | Class 3 |
| Loden (GB) | 19 | 1 | 1m3f | Class 5 |
| Forever Cinderella (GB) | 1 | 1 | 7f | Class 5 |
| Deserted (GB) | 7 | 1 | 1m2f | Class 5 |
| Deliverance (GB) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Tepee (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 6 | 1 | 17% | −4.67 |
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.88 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 2 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Class 3 | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.67 |
| Class 1 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +0.88 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Newmarket | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Ascot | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Epsom Downs | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| York | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Goodwood | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Catterick | 1 | 1 | 100% | +0.33 |
| Sandown | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.88 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 7 | 1 | 14% | −5.67 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 3 | 1 | 33% | −0.12 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Darryll Holland | 3 | 1 | 33% | −0.12 |
| Tony Culhane | 3 | 1 | 33% | −1.67 |
| Michael J M Murphy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Luke Morris | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Matthew Chadwick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| J F Egan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jimmy Fortune | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 10 | 2 | 20% | −5.79 |
| Blinkers | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2009 | 7 | 1 | 14% | −5.67 |
| 2008 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.88 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2012 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 17 Oct 12+11d | Kempton (AW) | Come Jump Racing Here On Sunday Handicap | 7/13 | 1 | 9-7 | 85 | 85A | Luke Morris | 25/1 |
| 06 Oct 12+40d | Newmarket | Piper-Heidsieck Handicap | 5/7 | ½ | 8-2 | 87 | 70A | Michael J M Murphy | 8/1 |
| 27 Aug 12+16d | Epsom Downs | Invest In Fine Wines Handicap | 4/7 | 2¾ | 9-7 | 89 | 80A | Michael J M Murphy | 5/1 |
| 11 Aug 12+1057d | Ascot | Michael Page International Shergar Cup Challenge Handicap | 9/10 | ½ | 9-12 | 93 | 74A | Matthew Chadwick | 20/1 |
| 2009 · 7 runs | |||||||||
| 19 Sep 09+29d | Newmarket | Phumelela Gold Enterprises Handicap | 4/6 | hd | 9-3 | 94 | 88B | J F Egan | 7/1 |
| 21 Aug 09+23d | York | Sky Bet Melrose Stakes Heritage Handicap | 12/13 | 15 | 9-6 | 96 | 75C | Jimmy Fortune | 12/1 |
| 29 Jul 09+20d | Goodwood | Racing Uk Heritage Handicap | 6/14 | 2¼ | 9-7 | 98 | 86A | Darryll Holland | 16/1 |
| 09 Jul 09+21d | Newmarket | Bahrain Trophy (Group 3) | 5/8 | ½ | 9-0 | 98 | 82A | Tony Culhane | 15/2 |
| 18 Jun 09+42d | Ascot | Hampton Court Stakes (Listed) | 4/12 | 2½ | 9-2 | 96 | 89A | Tony Culhane | 20/1 |
| 07 May 09+15d | Chester | Virgin Money Chester Vase (Group 3) | 6/8 | 8 | 8-12 | 102 | 68A | Darryll Holland | 8/1 |
| 22 Apr 09+251d | Catterick | Richmond Conditions Stakes | 1/3 | 9-4 | 87 | 91C | Tony Culhane | 1/3F | |
| 2008 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 14 Aug 08 | Sandown | E.B.F. Maiden Stakes | 1/5 | 9-3 | 87 | 91B | Darryll Holland | 15/8F | |
Quick answers
- How many races has Too Much Trouble won?
- Too Much Trouble (GB) won 2 of 12 archived starts between 2008 and 2012, a strike rate of 16.7%. Placed 2 times in total (16.7% of starts).
- Who trained Too Much Trouble?
- Too Much Trouble (GB) was trained by Ed Vaughan on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 17 October 2012.
- Who is Too Much Trouble's sire?
- Too Much Trouble (GB) is by Barathea (IRE) out of Tentpole (USA), whose sire is Rainbow Quest.
- What going does Too Much Trouble prefer?
- Too Much Trouble (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 6 starts (16.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Too Much Trouble's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 17 October 2012. The highest on record is 102.
- What is Too Much Trouble's sire's record?
- Barathea (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.5% of 4,143 runs since Jan 2008 (315 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Too Much Trouble's siblings?
- Out of Tentpole (USA), Too Much Trouble (GB) has 7 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Bivouac (UAE) (8). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Shakopee (GB)). The wins came over 7f–2m. As at Oct 2026.