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Turtle Watch (GB)

9yo gelding (at last run, Feb 2017) · Last trainer Rose Dobbin · Last owner Mr Mrs Raymond Anderson Green
by Where Or When (IRE) out of Cita Verda (FR) (Take Risks)
14 runs · 6 courses · from Apr 2013
As at 15 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 8 Feb 2017 — 3,535 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2017 · 6th of 7 3 wins · Kelso & Carlisle Last raced off OR 112
KTB Profile

Turtle Watch (GB) is 3 from 14, all wins coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since May 2015. 3 of 9 starts with soft in the ground have ended in wins — 0 from 5 on quicker.

Based on 14 archived runs · updated 15 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 4
Official rating112↓ 5lb off peak
112 92–117

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 103 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Wetherby, 12 Nov 2016

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Jumps 3 figures · best 103B · median 65
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2103B82—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2103B84—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 4 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 3 figures from 4 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 114A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kelso, 29 Dec 2016 Official rating 112 at the last run, 8 Feb 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 13 figures · best 133A · median 100
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
Good to Soft5130A114—
Good3113A78—
Soft295A90.5—
Good to Firm2100A90.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 15 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m9130A100—
2m1f – 2m4f4133A97.5—

Of 14 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 13 figures from 14 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Where Or When (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm18211.1%+1.9—
Good to Firm258238.9%−0.30 from 2
Good365359.6%+0.40 from 3
Good to Soft1932211.4%+2.22 from 5
Soft21794.1%−5.10 from 3
Heavy841011.9%+2.71 from 1
Standard (AW)443449.9%+0.7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f53815.1%+5.9—
6f – 7f15174.6%−4.6—
1m – 1m1f209157.2%−2—
1m2f – 1m4f5226211.9%+2.7—
1m5f – 2m391359%−0.22 from 10
2m1f – 2m4f174126.9%−2.31 from 4
2m5f – 3m7168.5%−0.7—
Over 3m700%−9.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Cita Verda (FR) (Take Risks)

6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Corky Dancer (GB) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m–2m7½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Bluffmeifyoucan (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Corky Dancer (GB)1822m–2m7½fClass 5
Bluffmeifyoucan (GB)1112m2½fClass 4
Mount Bonete (GB)212mClass 5
Groovy Dancer (GB)1212m1fClass 6
Pass It On (GB)20——
Cool Me Down (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 5 2 40% +10.88
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 1 100% +3.50

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 10 3 30% +10.38
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kelso 5 2 40% +10.88
Ayr 3 0 0% −3.00
Carlisle 2 1 50% +2.50
Perth 2 0 0% −2.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 10 2 20% +5.88
2m1f – 2m4f 4 1 25% +0.50

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Craig Nichol 3 0 0% −3.00
Wilson Renwick 3 2 67% +14.50
Richie McGrath 3 0 0% −3.00
James Reveley 2 0 0% −2.00
Adam Nicol 1 0 0% −1.00
Graham Watters 1 1 100% +1.88
Timmy Murphy 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 13 3 23% +7.38
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 1 0 0% −1.00
2016 3 0 0% −3.00
2015 3 1 33% −0.12
2013 7 2 29% +10.50

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 10 3 30% +10.38
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
08 Feb 17+41d Carlisle CFM Chase (Novices' Limited Handicap) Class 4 · 16f · Soft · 7 ran 6/7 ¾ 11-1 11265B86B Craig Nichol 12/1
29 Dec 16+12d Kelso Monteith Memorial Handicap Chase Class 4 · 17f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 2/10 12 11-4 11261A114A Adam Nicol 5/2F
17 Dec 16+35d Newcastle Vertem Management Chase (Novices' Limited Handicap) Class 4 · 16.5f · Soft · 6 ran F/6 — 11-5 112—— Craig Nichol 7/1
12 Nov 16+556d Wetherby Totepoolliveinfo.com Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 16f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 1 10-13 117103B101A Craig Nichol 20/1
06 May 15+19d Kelso Principal & Prosper Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-4 110—130A Graham Watters 15/8F
17 Apr 15+42d Ayr Qts Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 16f · Good · 14 ran 5/14 nk 10-7 110—113A James Reveley 4/1
06 Mar 15+488d Ayr Seven Exclusive Cheltenham Races On RacingUK Handicap Hurdle (For The James Barclay Challenge Trophy) Class 4 · 16f · Soft · 7 ran 6/7 1¾ 11-2 110—95A Wilson Renwick 10/3
03 Nov 13+15d Carlisle Northern Racing Club 'Saturday Naps Challenge' Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Sunday 5k Bonus Race) Class 4 · 17f · Heavy · 7 ran 1/7 11-6 102—133A Wilson Renwick 7/2
19 Oct 13+13d Kelso Peter Doyle Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 1/12 10-3 92—120A Wilson Renwick 12/1
06 Oct 13+94d Kelso Radio Borders Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 13 ran 11/13 ¾ 10-3 95—72A Richie McGrath 20/1
04 Jul 13+25d Perth Abba Gold Evening On July 30th Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 20f · Good · 11 ran 5/11 25 11-0 ——78C Richie McGrath 16/1
09 Jun 13+14d Perth Murrayshall Hotel Golf/Racing Break Maiden Hurdle (For The Provost's Plate Challenge Trophy) Class 5 · 20f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 5/7 24 11-0 ——81C Richie McGrath 8/1
26 May 13+37d Kelso Jack Clark Swan Song Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 4/8 ½ 10-12 ——100A James Reveley 22/1
19 Apr 13 Ayr Alice Abbott 60th Birthday Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 9/9 nk 11-2 ——91C Timmy Murphy 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Turtle Watch (GB) won?
Turtle Watch (GB) won 3 of 14 archived starts between 2013 and 2017, a strike rate of 21.4%. Placed 4 times in total (28.6% of starts).
Who trained Turtle Watch (GB)?
Turtle Watch (GB) was trained by Rose Dobbin on the most recent run on record, at Carlisle on 8 February 2017.
Who is Turtle Watch (GB)'s sire?
Turtle Watch (GB) is by Where Or When (IRE) out of Cita Verda (FR), whose sire is Take Risks.
What going does Turtle Watch (GB) prefer?
Turtle Watch (GB) has the best record on good to soft going: 2 wins from 5 starts (40%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Turtle Watch (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 112, from the run on 8 February 2017. The highest on record is 117.
What is Turtle Watch (GB)'s sire's record?
Where Or When (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 1,578 runs since Jan 2008 (124 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 4.1% from 217. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 4.6% from 151.
Who are Turtle Watch (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Cita Verda (FR), Turtle Watch (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Corky Dancer (GB) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Bluffmeifyoucan (GB)). The wins came over 2m–2m7½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2013. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.