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Horse profile

Undecided (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2022) · Last trainer Donald Whillans · Last owner The Buyers Club
by Sageburg (IRE) out of Your Place Or Mine (IRE) (Classic Cliche)
5 runs · 3 courses · from Dec 2020
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Jun 2022 — 1,588 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2022 · 8th of 9
KTB Profile

Undecided (IRE) is yet to win from 5 starts.

Based on 5 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 106 the best of the last 2 graded (A or B) runs · Newcastle, 10 Dec 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Jumps 4 figures · best 106A · median 76.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Soft282A64.5—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m3106A82—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 55C the best of the last 1 rated run · Hamilton, 23 Jun 2022

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 98A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newcastle, 20 Mar 2021

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Jumps 4 figures · best 100A · median 94.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Soft298A94.5—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m3100A98—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Sageburg (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10% of 3,479 runs since Jan 2008 (414 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 13.4% from 389. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 2.7% from 294. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 13.2% from 355.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−10—
Good to Firm45715.6%+5.60 from 1
Good1,06710810.1%+0.10 from 1
Good to Soft6507211.1%+1.10 from 2
Soft1,0311009.7%−0.30 from 1
Heavy3895213.4%+3.4—
Standard (AW)29482.7%−7.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f44613.6%+3.6—
6f – 7f292227.5%−2.5—
1m – 1m1f320299.1%−0.90 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f216177.9%−2.1—
1m5f – 2m9669710%00 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f1,23012410.1%+0.10 from 1
2m5f – 3m3554713.2%+3.2—
Over 3m56610.7%+0.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Your Place Or Mine (IRE) (Classic Cliche)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Owl Creek Bridge (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 2m5f–2m6½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Owl Creek Bridge (IRE)2022m5f–2m6½f—
Classic Place (IRE)40——
Still Haventaclue (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newcastle 3 0 0% −3.00
Hamilton 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Craig Nichol 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Gray 1 0 0% −1.00
Conor O'Farrell 1 0 0% −1.00
Callum Bewley 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2022 2 0 0% −2.00
2021 2 0 0% −2.00
2020 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
NH Flat 3 0 0% −3.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt SpdKTB Jockey SP
2022 · 2 runs
23 Jun 22+107d Hamilton PDM Buildbase Scotland Maiden Stakes (GBB Race) Class 5 · 9f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 8/9 1½ 10-2 49C55C Shane Gray 50/1
08 Mar 22+323d Newcastle Go Racing With Vickers.Bet Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 20.5f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 9/10 13 11-5 47C91C Conor O'Farrell 66/1
2021 · 2 runs
19 Apr 21+30d Hexham Follow HexhamRaces On Twitter Standard Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) (Div 2) Class 5 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 33 11-0 71C82C Craig Nichol 50/1
20 Mar 21+100d Newcastle Download The QuinnBet App Standard Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 7/10 4½ 11-2 82A98A Callum Bewley 18/1
2020 · 1 run
10 Dec 20 Newcastle Sky Sports Racing On Sky Channel 415 Standard Open NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 16f · Soft · 12 ran 6/12 1 11-0 106A100A Craig Nichol 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Undecided won?
Undecided (IRE) has yet to win, from 5 archived starts between 2020 and 2022.
Who trained Undecided?
Undecided (IRE) was trained by Donald Whillans on the most recent run on record, at Hamilton on 23 June 2022.
Who is Undecided's sire?
Undecided (IRE) is by Sageburg (IRE) out of Your Place Or Mine (IRE), whose sire is Classic Cliche.
What is Undecided's sire's record?
Sageburg (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10% of 3,479 runs since Jan 2008 (414 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 13.4% from 389. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 2.7% from 294. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 13.2% from 355.
Who are Undecided's siblings?
Out of Your Place Or Mine (IRE), Undecided (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Owl Creek Bridge (IRE) (2). The wins came over 2m5f–2m6½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from December 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.