Until When (USA)
Until When (USA) is yet to win from 12 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 12 at Ayr (Jul 2008). Last raced off 65, 12lb below the career-high mark.
- 0–12Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 3 (25%)Placed
- −12.00£1 level staken=12 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=12 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 77Highest OR
- 89dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 467 runs since Jan 2008 (54 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −10.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 91 | 5 | 5.5% | −5.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Good | 63 | 9 | 14.3% | +3.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 37 | 2 | 5.4% | −5.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 24 | 2 | 8.3% | −2.6 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 8 | 0 | 0% | −10.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 240 | 33 | 13.8% | +2.9 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 84 | 9 | 10.7% | −0.2 | 0 from 4 |
| 6f – 7f | 188 | 24 | 12.8% | +1.9 | 0 from 7 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 128 | 11 | 8.6% | −2.3 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 55 | 7 | 12.7% | +1.8 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 9 | 0 | 0% | −10.9 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −10.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Alfred Hutchinson (GB) (10 wins).
The wins came over 7f–1m3f; the highest grade won is Listed (Alfred Hutchinson (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alfred Hutchinson (GB) | 78 | 10 | 7f–1m1½f | Listed |
| Kingthistle (GB) | 25 | 3 | 1m1½f–1m3f | Class 4 |
| Sea Storm (GB) | 13 | 0 | — | — |
| Magician Coutinho (GB) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Dinkie (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Musselburgh | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Redcar | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Ripon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thirsk | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ayr | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Hamilton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newcastle | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Yarmouth | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Beverley | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Under 6f | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tom Eaves | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Philip Robinson | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr S Bushby | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Royston Ffrench | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Paul Eddery | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Visor | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2008 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2007 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2006 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 03 Apr 09+230d | Musselburgh | Turftv Betting Shop Service Handicap | 3/12 | 3 | 8-13 | 65 | 73A | Tom Eaves | 12/1 |
| 16 Aug 08+22d | Ripon | E-Tech Group Geoff Jewson Memorial Maiden Stakes | 4/14 | nk | 9-5 | 65 | 76A | Tom Eaves | 4/1J |
| 25 Jul 08+11d | Thirsk | Pertemps People 'Hands And Heels' Apprentice Handicap | 11/12 | 3½ | 9-1 | 65 | 30C | Mr S Bushby | 12/1 |
| 14 Jul 08+39d | Ayr | Dawn Construction Handicap | 2/12 | 1 | 9-12 | 65 | 75A | Tom Eaves | 8/1 |
| 05 Jun 08+210d | Hamilton | Tokio Marine Handicap (Qualifier) | 8/12 | nk | 9-6 | 68 | 63A | Tom Eaves | 11/1 |
| 08 Nov 07+20d | Musselburgh | Daily Record First For Racing Handicap | 5/9 | nk | 8-11 | 70 | 73C | Tom Eaves | 16/1 |
| 19 Oct 07+335d | Redcar | redcarracing.co.uk Maiden Stakes | 4/14 | 3 | 9-3 | 74 | 70C | Tom Eaves | 8/1 |
| 18 Nov 06+39d | Wolverhampton (AW) | wolverhampton-racecourse.co.uk Nursery | 4/7 | shd | 9-7 | 75 | 61C | Tom Eaves | 15/2 |
| 10 Oct 06+20d | Newcastle | Weatherbys Insurance Maiden Stakes (Div 1) | 4/14 | 6 | 9-0 | 75 | 61C | Royston Ffrench | 4/1F |
| 20 Sep 06+24d | Redcar | E.B.F. Constant Security Maiden Stakes | 3/10 | 1¼ | 9-3 | 77 | 86C | Philip Robinson | 7/1 |
| 27 Aug 06+26d | Yarmouth | European Breeders Fund Eastern Daily Press Maiden Stakes | 4/7 | ½ | 9-3 | — | 71C | Philip Robinson | 10/1 |
| 01 Aug 06 | Beverley | E.B.F. Maiden Stakes | 9/12 | 2 | 9-3 | — | 60C | Paul Eddery | 3/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Until When (USA) won?
- Until When (USA) has yet to win, from 12 archived starts between 2006 and 2009. Placed 3 times in total (25% of starts).
- Who trained Until When (USA)?
- Until When (USA) was trained by Bryan Smart on the most recent run on record, at Musselburgh on 3 April 2009.
- Who is Until When (USA)'s sire?
- Until When (USA) is by Grand Slam (USA) out of Chez Cherie (GB), whose sire is Wolfhound.
- What is Until When (USA)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 65, from the run on 3 April 2009. The highest on record is 77.
- What is Until When (USA)'s sire's record?
- Grand Slam (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 467 runs since Jan 2008 (54 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Until When (USA)'s siblings?
- Out of Chez Cherie (GB), Until When (USA) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Alfred Hutchinson (GB) (10). Highest grade won: Listed (Alfred Hutchinson (GB)). The wins came over 7f–1m3f. As at Oct 2026.