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Horse profile

Very Bad Things (FR)

4yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2012) · Last trainer P Adda · Last owner Ecurie Galoetro Sas
by Muhtathir (GB) out of Red Valentine (IRE) (Bad As I Wanna Be)
16 runs · 5 courses · from Jul 2010
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Jun 2012 — 5,249 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2012 · 4th of 10 New yard
KTB Profile

Very Bad Things (FR) is yet to win from 16 starts, though has placed 4 times. Best effort: 2nd of 16 at Saint-Cloud (FR) (Oct 2010).

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

No KTB Rating figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Muhtathir (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 4,714 runs since Jan 2008 (494 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.9% from 967.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−11.3—
Good to Firm1291310.1%−1.2—
Good90111713%+1.70 from 1
Good to Soft657629.4%−1.90 from 2
Soft1,39617912.8%+1.50 from 3
Heavy6598312.6%+1.30 from 2
Standard (AW)967767.9%−3.40 from 8
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f3438.8%−2.5—
6f – 7f505438.5%−2.80 from 6
1m – 1m1f950909.5%−1.80 from 8
1m2f – 1m4f949869.1%−2.20 from 1
1m5f – 2m7259713.4%+2.1—
2m1f – 2m4f1,16715513.3%+20 from 1
2m5f – 3m3194313.5%+2.2—
Over 3m651421.5%+10.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Red Valentine (IRE) (Bad As I Wanna Be)

5 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Grey Magic Night (FR) (3 wins).

The wins came over 7f–1m2½f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Grey Magic Night (FR)2737f–1m—
Very Bad Trip (FR)3227f–1m1½f—
Molaukev (FR)2111m2½f—
Vander Lady (FR)20——
Meeska Moska (FR)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 8 0 0% −8.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Deauville (FR) 7 0 0% −7.00
Longchamp (FR) 3 0 0% −3.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 3 0 0% −3.00
Chantilly (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Auteuil (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 8 0 0% −8.00
6f – 7f 6 0 0% −6.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ronan Thomas 5 0 0% −5.00
Stephane Pasquier 3 0 0% −3.00
Sylvain Ruis 2 0 0% −2.00
Alexandre Champenois 2 0 0% −2.00
Anthony Cardine 1 0 0% −1.00
Johan Victoire 1 0 0% −1.00
Jerome Cabre 1 0 0% −1.00
Thierry Jarnet 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 14 0 0% −14.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 4 0 0% −4.00
2011 5 0 0% −5.00
2010 7 0 0% −7.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 15 0 0% −15.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt Jockey SP
2012 · 4 runs
14 Jun 12+73d Auteuil (FR) Prix Beaumanoir (Hurdle) (Conditions) (4yo) (Turf) 17.5f · Heavy · 10 ran 4/10 ¾ 9-13 Anthony Cardine 14/1
02 Apr 12+17d Chantilly (FR) Prix De Jouvancourt (Handicap) (4yo) (Polytrack) 9.5f · Standard · 17 ran 6/17 ¾ 9-4 Ronan Thomas 35/1
16 Mar 12+66d Deauville (FR) Prix De La Londe (Handicap) (4yo) (Fibresand) 7.5f · Standard · 16 ran 9/16 ¾ 9-2 Ronan Thomas 30/1
10 Jan 12+19d Deauville (FR) Prix De La Chardeniere (Handicap) (4yo) (Fibresand) 7.5f · Standard · 15 ran 9/15 hd 9-6 Ronan Thomas 53/10
2011 · 5 runs
22 Dec 11+72d Deauville (FR) Prix De La Tortonne (Handicap) (3yo) (Fibresand) 7.5f · Standard · 16 ran 3/16 shd 9-2 Ronan Thomas 19/1
11 Oct 11+37d Longchamp (FR) Prix Perplexite (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 10.5f · Good To Soft · 14 ran —/14 8-9 Johan Victoire 37/1
04 Sep 11+31d Longchamp (FR) Prix Du Petit Trianon (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 8.5f · Very Soft · 17 ran 10/17 ¾ 8-8 Ronan Thomas 19/1
04 Aug 11+209d Deauville (FR) Prix D'Argentan (Handicap) (3yo) (Fibresand) 9.5f · Standard · 18 ran 9/18 ¾ 8-9 Jerome Cabre 12/1
07 Jan 11+10d Deauville (FR) Prix De La Gicqueliere (Claimer) (3yo Colts & Geldings) (Fibresand) 7.5f · Standard · 16 ran 10/16 3 9-2 Sylvain Ruis 21/1
2010 · 7 runs
28 Dec 10+49d Deauville (FR) Prix Du Buff (Maiden) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Fibresand) 9.5f · Standard · 17 ran —/17 9-2 Sylvain Ruis 30/1
09 Nov 10+29d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Thebais (Handicap) (2yo) (Turf) 8f · Heavy · 13 ran 9/13 ½ 8-5 Thierry Jarnet 9/2J
11 Oct 10+24d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix Boxing Day (Claimer) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Turf) 8f · Very Soft · 16 ran 2/16 ¾ 9-1 Stephane Pasquier 6/1
17 Sep 10+12d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix De Levis Saint-Nom (Claimer) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Turf) 8f · Soft · 12 ran 3/12 1½ 9-2 Stephane Pasquier 73/10
05 Sep 10+15d Longchamp (FR) Prix Du Rouvray (Claimer) (2yo) (Turf) 8f · Good · 15 ran 4/15 ½ 8-11 Stephane Pasquier 12/1
21 Aug 10+40d Deauville (FR) Prix Du Mont Canisy (Claimer) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Fibresand) 7.5f · Standard · 12 ran 3/12 2 8-7 Alexandre Champenois 38/1
12 Jul 10 Chantilly (FR) Prix Du Puits De Commelle (Claimer) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Turf) 7f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 8/13 3 8-7 Alexandre Champenois 32/1

Quick answers

How many races has Very Bad Things won?
Very Bad Things (FR) has yet to win, from 16 archived starts between 2010 and 2012. Placed 4 times in total (25% of starts).
Who trained Very Bad Things?
Very Bad Things (FR) was trained by P Adda on the most recent run on record, at Auteuil (FR) on 14 June 2012.
Who is Very Bad Things's sire?
Very Bad Things (FR) is by Muhtathir (GB) out of Red Valentine (IRE), whose sire is Bad As I Wanna Be.
What is Very Bad Things's sire's record?
Muhtathir (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.3% of 4,714 runs since Jan 2008 (494 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.9% from 967.
Who are Very Bad Things's siblings?
Out of Red Valentine (IRE), Very Bad Things (FR) has 5 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Grey Magic Night (FR) (3). The wins came over 7f–1m2½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.