Victory Ide Say (IRE)
Victory Ide Say (IRE) is 2 from 3. Won last time out at Haydock (Class 4). Each win came on a first visit to the course.
- 2–3Wins / Runs
- 66.7%Strike rate
- 3 (100%)Placed
- +1.88£1 level staken=3 at SP
- 85Highest OR
- 40dBetween runs (median)longest 139 d
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 2,349 runs since Jan 2008 (98 horses).
Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 14.3% from 112. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.2% from 167.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 39 | 4 | 10.3% | +1.4 | — |
| Good to Firm | 462 | 42 | 9.1% | +0.2 | 1 from 1 |
| Good | 451 | 43 | 9.5% | +0.6 | 1 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 254 | 25 | 9.8% | +0.9 | — |
| Soft | 320 | 26 | 8.1% | −0.8 | — |
| Heavy | 134 | 8 | 6% | −2.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 689 | 60 | 8.7% | −0.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 404 | 37 | 9.2% | +0.3 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 986 | 92 | 9.3% | +0.4 | 2 from 3 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 387 | 32 | 8.3% | −0.6 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 167 | 7 | 4.2% | −4.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 284 | 23 | 8.1% | −0.8 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 112 | 16 | 14.3% | +5.4 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 9 | 1 | 11.1% | +2.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Venetian Proposal (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 7f–1m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Dos Amigos (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Venetian Proposal (IRE) | 27 | 1 | 1m1f | Class 6 |
| Dos Amigos (IRE) | 5 | 1 | 7f | Class 4 |
| Maesmor Magic (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Kalasay (IRE) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.88 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +0.00 |
| Class 4 | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.88 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Haydock | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.88 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.00 |
| Kempton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alan Munro | 2 | 2 | 100% | +2.88 |
| Adrian McCarthy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 | 2 | 2 | 100% | +2.88 |
| 2009 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2010 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 10 Jun 10+40d | Haydock | Racing Uk Home Of Flat Racing Handicap | 1/11 | 9-7 | 85 | 108A | Alan Munro | 15/8F | |
| 01 May 10+139d | Doncaster | Zestbarandgrill.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 1/13 | 9-2 | 85 | 96A | Alan Munro | EvensF | |
| 2009 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 13 Dec 09 | Kempton (AW) | Betfair Mobile Maiden Stakes | 3/11 | nk | 9-3 | — | 76A | Adrian McCarthy | 40/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Victory Ide Say won?
- Victory Ide Say (IRE) won 2 of 3 archived starts between 2009 and 2010, a strike rate of 66.7%. Placed 3 times in total (100% of starts).
- Who trained Victory Ide Say?
- Victory Ide Say (IRE) was trained by Peter Chapple-Hyam on the most recent run on record, at Haydock on 10 June 2010.
- Who is Victory Ide Say's sire?
- Victory Ide Say (IRE) is by Fath (USA) out of Ide Say (IRE), whose sire is Grand Lodge.
- What is Victory Ide Say's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 10 June 2010. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Victory Ide Say's sire's record?
- Fath (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.9% of 2,349 runs since Jan 2008 (98 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 14.3% from 112. Weakest over 1m2f – 1m4f (all codes): 4.2% from 167.
- Who are Victory Ide Say's siblings?
- Out of Ide Say (IRE), Victory Ide Say (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Venetian Proposal (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Dos Amigos (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m1f. As at Nov 2026.