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Venetian Proposal (IRE)

5yo mare (at last run, Apr 2019) · Last trainer Zoe Davison · Last owner Daniel Shaw
by Fast Company (IRE) out of Ide Say (IRE) (Grand Lodge)
27 runs · 13 courses · from Aug 2016
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 22 Apr 2019 — 2,746 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2019 · 8th of 8 Won at Lingfield Last raced off OR 79
KTB Profile

Venetian Proposal (IRE) is 1 from 27, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Jul 2017. The win came on turf — 0 from 9 on the all-weather. Last raced off 79, 19lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 27 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Won on turf, 0 on AW Win at Class 6 OR ↓ 19lb off peak
Official rating79↓ 19lb off peak
79 44–98

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 83 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Plumpton, 13 May 2018

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 103A · median 69
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good583A67—
Good to Soft2103A87—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m7103A71—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Flat 16 figures · best 138C · median 69.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)982A61—
Good to Soft378C72—
Good272C67—
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f7138C72—
1m2f – 1m4f682A71—
1m – 1m1f369A62—

Of 26 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 24 figures from 26 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 74A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Taunton, 11 Mar 2019 Official rating 79 at the last jumps run, 22 Apr 2019

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 74A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chelmsford City (AW), 7 Dec 2017 Official rating 54 at the last flat run, 20 Jan 2018

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 8 figures · best 101B · median 73
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good5101B68—
Good to Soft287A80.5—
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m7101B74—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Flat 17 figures · best 74A · median 50
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)974A50—
Good to Soft368A67—
Good345A43—
Soft1———
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f865A46.5—
1m2f – 1m4f674A64.5—
1m – 1m1f368A45—

Of 27 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 25 figures from 27 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.4% of 7,595 runs since Jan 2008 (492 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 12.7% from 558. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 12.8% from 109.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm24312.5%+3.1—
Good to Firm944737.7%−1.70 from 2
Good1,6571559.4%00 from 8
Good to Soft936909.6%+0.21 from 5
Soft1,39216511.9%+2.50 from 3
Heavy5587112.7%+3.3—
Standard (AW)2,0831557.4%−20 from 9
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f684679.8%+0.4—
6f – 7f2,7732328.4%−10 from 8
1m – 1m1f1,6921539%−0.41 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f1,21713711.3%+1.90 from 6
1m5f – 2m779769.8%+0.40 from 9
2m1f – 2m4f328329.8%+0.40 from 1
2m5f – 3m1091412.8%+3.4—
Over 3m1317.7%−1.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ide Say (IRE) (Grand Lodge)

4 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Victory Ide Say (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 6f–7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Victory Ide Say (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Victory Ide Say (IRE)326f–7fClass 4
Dos Amigos (IRE)517fClass 4
Maesmor Magic (IRE)20——
Kalasay (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 9 0 0% −9.00
Good 8 0 0% −8.00
Good to Soft 5 1 20% +4.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 14 0 0% −14.00
Class 6 8 1 13% +1.00
Class 4 5 0 0% −5.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Plumpton 5 0 0% −5.00
Lingfield 4 1 25% +5.00
Kempton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Lingfield (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Taunton 2 0 0% −2.00
Leicester 2 0 0% −2.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Hereford 1 0 0% −1.00
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Brighton 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 9 0 0% −9.00
6f – 7f 8 0 0% −8.00
1m2f – 1m4f 6 0 0% −6.00
1m – 1m1f 3 1 33% +6.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Kieran O'Neill 8 1 13% +1.00
Page Fuller 5 0 0% −5.00
Daniel Muscutt 3 0 0% −3.00
Tom Cheesman 2 0 0% −2.00
William Carson 2 0 0% −2.00
Lucy K Barry 1 0 0% −1.00
James Best 1 0 0% −1.00
Trevor Whelan 1 0 0% −1.00
Ryan Powell 1 0 0% −1.00
Liam Keniry 1 0 0% −1.00
Rob Hornby 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Bentley 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 17 1 6% −8.00
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Hood 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2019 4 0 0% −4.00
2018 8 0 0% −8.00
2017 10 1 10% −1.00
2016 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 17 1 6% −8.00
Hurdle 10 0 0% −10.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2019 · 4 runs
22 Apr 19+42d Plumpton Harry And Betty Savill Memorial Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 17.5f · Good · 8 ran 8/8 11 10-0 7956C65C Tom Cheesman 9/1
11 Mar 19+54d Taunton Follow willhillracing On Twitter Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 7/11 7 10-2 8471B74A Page Fuller 33/1
16 Jan 19+7d Plumpton Sw Catering Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16f · Soft · 8 ran 5/8 6 10-13 8839C72A Page Fuller 10/1
09 Jan 19+38d Taunton Somerset Sight Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16.5f · Good · 7 ran 4/7 9 10-11 8867B80B Page Fuller 16/1
2018 · 8 runs
02 Dec 18+10d Leicester Shady Lane Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 15.5f · Good To Firm · 7 ran PU/7 — 11-2 93—— Page Fuller 33/1
22 Nov 18+17d Market Rasen Lincs Loos Lady Riders' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 16.5f · Good · 10 ran 8/10 17 11-6 9832C66C Lucy K Barry 50/1
05 Nov 18+176d Plumpton Sky Sports Racing Launching January 2019 Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 9/10 15 10-2 —80C68C Tom Cheesman 28/1
13 May 18+28d Plumpton Cumnor House Sussex - Where Children Flourish Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 3/7 nk 9-12 —83A101B Page Fuller 16/1
15 Apr 18+19d Plumpton Enhanced Place Odds At 188bet Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 5/11 6 10-1 —103A87A James Best 50/1
27 Mar 18+66d Hereford myracing.com For Free Hereford Tips Juvenile Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-7 ——— Trevor Whelan 100/1
20 Jan 18+14d Lingfield (AW) Betway Live Casino Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 11 ran 10/11 5 9-1 5470C45C Kieran O'Neill 20/1
06 Jan 18+30d Lingfield (AW) 32redsport.com Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 1 8-9 5659A62A Kieran O'Neill 10/1
2017 · 10 runs
07 Dec 17+108d Chelmsford City (AW) Bet toteWin At betfred.com Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 10f · Standard · 11 ran 3/11 2¾ 9-1 5682A74A Kieran O'Neill 20/1
21 Aug 17+16d Lingfield Sign Up To 188Bet Affiliates Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 3/11 1¾ 9-2 5672A67A Kieran O'Neill 7/1
05 Aug 17+9d Lingfield Galway Festival Betting At 188Bet Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Soft · 10 ran 3/10 ¾ 9-0 5557A67A Kieran O'Neill 6/1
27 Jul 17+15d Sandown Paddock Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 8/10 ½ 8-2 5578C40C Kieran O'Neill 14/1
12 Jul 17+15d Lingfield Ctp 30th Anniversary Handicap Class 6 · 9f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 1/10 8-10 4969A68A Kieran O'Neill 8/1
27 Jun 17+26d Leicester Deborah Whitehorn's Birthday Celebration Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good · 11 ran 7/11 1¾ 8-0 4962A45A Ryan Powell 16/1
01 Jun 17+9d Lingfield Lynda Gilfrin Birthday Fillies' Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 3/13 1¾ 8-4 52138C63A Kieran O'Neill 66/1
23 May 17+29d Brighton Trailwalker 100km Challenge 29-30 July Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Good · 15 ran 13/15 1 8-13 5272C43A Liam Keniry 25/1
24 Apr 17+109d Kempton (AW) Matchbook Betting Exchange Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 14 ran 8/14 ½ 9-4 5677B55A Daniel Muscutt 33/1
05 Jan 17+22d Wolverhampton (AW) 10 Free At 32Red.com Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 7 ran 6/7 1¼ 8-6 6061A50A William Carson 50/1
2016 · 5 runs
14 Dec 16+35d Lingfield (AW) 32Red Casino EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Plus 10) (Div 1) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 ¾ 9-0 4472A65A Daniel Muscutt 100/1
09 Nov 16+28d Kempton (AW) 32Red On The App Store Nursery Class 6 · 8f · Standard To Slow · 13 ran 13/13 3¾ 8-8 4718C31C William Carson 100/1
12 Oct 16+14d Kempton (AW) 32Red On The App Store Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Plus 10) (Div 1) Class 5 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 9 ran 9/9 ½ 8-11 —48A36A Rob Hornby 100/1
28 Sep 16+58d Kempton (AW) 32Red.com/British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Plus 10) (Div 2) Class 5 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 12 ran 10/12 1½ 9-0 —32C34C Harry Bentley 100/1
01 Aug 16 Windsor Sky Bet British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Plus 10) Class 5 · 6f · Good · 16 ran 13/16 1 8-11 ——41A Daniel Muscutt 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Venetian Proposal won?
Venetian Proposal (IRE) won 1 of 27 archived starts between 2016 and 2019, a strike rate of 3.7%. Placed 5 times in total (18.5% of starts).
Who trained Venetian Proposal?
Venetian Proposal (IRE) was trained by Zoe Davison on the most recent run on record, at Plumpton on 22 April 2019.
Who is Venetian Proposal's sire?
Venetian Proposal (IRE) is by Fast Company (IRE) out of Ide Say (IRE), whose sire is Grand Lodge.
What going does Venetian Proposal prefer?
Venetian Proposal (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Venetian Proposal's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 79, from the run on 22 April 2019. The highest on record is 98.
What is Venetian Proposal's sire's record?
Fast Company (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.4% of 7,595 runs since Jan 2008 (492 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 12.7% from 558. Strongest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 12.8% from 109.
Who are Venetian Proposal's siblings?
Out of Ide Say (IRE), Venetian Proposal (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Victory Ide Say (IRE) (2). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Victory Ide Say (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.