Whatelseaboutyou (IRE)
Whatelseaboutyou (IRE) is yet to win from 6 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 9 at Newcastle (AW) (Mar 2017).
Progeny in our archive
As a dam, Whatelseaboutyou (IRE) has 2 produce in the archive, 2 winners — most wins Church Mountain (IRE) (9 wins).
The wins came over 7f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Already Gone (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Church Mountain (IRE) | 74 | 9 | 1m–1m4f | — |
| Already Gone (IRE) | 19 | 2 | 7f–1m2f | Class 4 |
- 0–6Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 1 (16.7%)Placed
- −6.00£1 level staken=6 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=6 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 60Highest OR
- 38dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 95
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 5 | 95B | 72 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 3 | 95B | 72 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1 | — | — | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | — | — | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 5,091 runs since Jan 2008 (314 horses).
Weakest on heavy going: 6.8% from 263.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 17 | 1 | 5.9% | −3.9 | — |
| Good to Firm | 620 | 55 | 8.9% | −0.9 | — |
| Good | 1,152 | 134 | 11.6% | +1.8 | — |
| Good to Soft | 605 | 51 | 8.4% | −1.4 | — |
| Soft | 759 | 67 | 8.8% | −1 | 0 from 1 |
| Heavy | 263 | 18 | 6.8% | −3 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 1,674 | 170 | 10.2% | +0.4 | 0 from 5 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 406 | 40 | 9.9% | +0.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 1,529 | 162 | 10.6% | +0.8 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,078 | 93 | 8.6% | −1.2 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 909 | 80 | 8.8% | −1 | 0 from 3 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 697 | 78 | 11.2% | +1.4 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 367 | 35 | 9.5% | −0.3 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 96 | 8 | 8.3% | −1.5 | — |
| Over 3m | 9 | 1 | 11.1% | +1.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them We Are Ninety (IRE) (3 wins).
The wins came over 6f–1m2f; the highest grade won is Listed (We Are Ninety (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| We Are Ninety (IRE) | 7 | 3 | 1m–1m2f | Listed |
| The Rain King (IRE) | 25 | 2 | 1m–1m½f | Class 5 |
| Lady Brigid (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 6f | Class 4 |
| Pebble Beech (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| My Goodness (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Molotov (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 6 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Newcastle (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Lingfield (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chelmsford City (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Paul Hanagan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Adam McNamara | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tony Hamilton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jack Garritty | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Barry McHugh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wayne Lordan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2017 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2016 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2017 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 01 Mar 17+7d | Newcastle (AW) | 32redsport.com Handicap | 3/9 | ¾ | 8-10 | 59 | 95B | 66A | Paul Hanagan | 5/1 |
| 22 Feb 17+34d | Lingfield (AW) | 32red Casino Apprentice Handicap | 4/6 | 1¼ | 9-11 | 59 | 58B | 71B | Adam McNamara | 9/2 |
| 19 Jan 17+35d | Chelmsford City (AW) | Bet totequadpot At betfred.com Handicap | 5/12 | 2 | 9-7 | 60 | 72A | 62A | Tony Hamilton | 7/1 |
| 2016 · 3 runs | ||||||||||
| 15 Dec 16+12d | Newcastle (AW) | 32red.com Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Maiden Stakes | 8/11 | 1 | 9-0 | — | 54A | 62A | Jack Garritty | 16/1 |
| 03 Dec 16+101d | Wolverhampton (AW) | 32Red.com EBF Maiden Stakes | 7/13 | 1¾ | 9-0 | — | 82B | 64A | Barry McHugh | 33/1 |
| 24 Aug 16 | Bellewstown | Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Auction Maiden | 6/15 | 1½ | 9-2 | — | — | 68A | Wayne Lordan | 11/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Whatelseaboutyou won?
- Whatelseaboutyou (IRE) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2016 and 2017. Placed 1 time in total (16.7% of starts).
- Who trained Whatelseaboutyou?
- Whatelseaboutyou (IRE) was trained by Richard Fahey on the most recent run on record, at Newcastle (AW) on 1 March 2017.
- Who is Whatelseaboutyou's sire?
- Whatelseaboutyou (IRE) is by Canford Cliffs (IRE) out of Brigids Cross (IRE), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
- What is Whatelseaboutyou's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 59, from the run on 1 March 2017. The highest on record is 60.
- What is Whatelseaboutyou's sire's record?
- Canford Cliffs (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 5,091 runs since Jan 2008 (314 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 6.8% from 263.
- Who are Whatelseaboutyou's siblings?
- Out of Brigids Cross (IRE), Whatelseaboutyou (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: We Are Ninety (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Listed (We Are Ninety (IRE)). The wins came over 6f–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.
- Has Whatelseaboutyou produced winners?
- As a dam, Whatelseaboutyou (IRE) has 2 produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Church Mountain (IRE) (9). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Already Gone (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.