Whenthepennydrops (GB)
Whenthepennydrops is a Kayf Tara mare who has yet to win from nine starts on turf, though she has placed twice. She reached a best of third of 11 in a Class 5 mares handicap hurdle at Worcester in May 2023. That effort came off an official rating of 85, 10 lb below her highest ever mark of 95. All her racing has been between 1m5f and over 3m, mostly on good to soft or softer ground.
- 0–9Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (22.2%)Placed
- −9.00£1 level staken=9 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=9 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 95Highest OR
- 30dBetween runs (median)longest 353 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 117
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 6 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 3 | 117B | 71 | — |
| Good | 2 | 106B | 105 | — |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 132C | 118 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 6 Nov 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 3 | 104A | 71 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 2 | 132C | 119 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | — | — | — |
| Over 3m | 1 | — | — | — |
Of 9 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (1) · obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (1).
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 9 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 13,756 runs since Jan 2008 (1,148 horses).
Strongest on heavy going: 16.2% from 1,708.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 13 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| Good to Firm | 529 | 60 | 11.3% | −1.3 | — |
| Good | 4,499 | 525 | 11.7% | −0.9 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 3,054 | 359 | 11.8% | −0.8 | 0 from 4 |
| Soft | 3,760 | 493 | 13.1% | +0.5 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 1,708 | 277 | 16.2% | +3.6 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 193 | 24 | 12.4% | −0.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 24 | 0 | 0% | −12.6 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 163 | 18 | 11% | −1.6 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 3,979 | 522 | 13.1% | +0.5 | 0 from 4 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 4,766 | 593 | 12.4% | −0.2 | 0 from 3 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3,818 | 479 | 12.5% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 1,004 | 126 | 12.5% | −0.1 | 0 from 1 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Makin'yourmindup (GB) (5 wins).
The wins came over 2m3½f–3m1f; the highest grade won is Grade 2 (Makin'yourmindup (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Makin'yourmindup (GB) | 14 | 5 | 2m3½f–3m½f | Grade 2 |
| Subtle Fortune (GB) | 10 | 2 | 2m6f–3m1f | Class 4 |
| Master Card (GB) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Julia Stardust (GB) | 4 | 0 | — | — |
| Get Busy Livin (GB) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Class 4 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Southwell | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bangor-on-Dee | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Worcester | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fontwell | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ascot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Over 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Harry Skelton | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Tristan Durrell | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Bridget Andrews | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tom Scudamore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2023 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2022 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2021 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| NH Flat | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Whenthepennydrops won?
- Whenthepennydrops (GB) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2021 and 2023. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
- Who trained Whenthepennydrops?
- Whenthepennydrops (GB) was trained by Dan Skelton on the most recent run on record, at Worcester on 26 May 2023.
- Who is Whenthepennydrops's sire?
- Whenthepennydrops (GB) is by Kayf Tara (GB) out of Subtilty (GB), whose sire is With Approval.
- What is Whenthepennydrops's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 85, from the run on 26 May 2023. The highest on record is 95.
- What is Whenthepennydrops's sire's record?
- Kayf Tara (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.6% of 13,756 runs since Jan 2008 (1,148 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 16.2% from 1,708.
- Who are Whenthepennydrops's siblings?
- Out of Subtilty (GB), Whenthepennydrops (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Makin'yourmindup (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Grade 2 (Makin'yourmindup (GB)). The wins came over 2m3½f–3m1f. As at Nov 2026.