Whoneedswings (IRE)
Whoneedswings (IRE) is 1 from 15. Hasn't won since May 2005. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 10 on softer). Last raced off a career-high mark of 87.
- 1–15Wins / Runs
- 6.7%Strike rate
- 7 (46.7%)Placed
- −11.50£1 level staken=15 at SP
- 0.73Fair A/E n=15 · 0.56 incl. margin
- 87Highest OR
- 58dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 1,518 runs since Jan 2008 (110 horses).
Strongest on good to firm going: 13% from 231. Weakest on heavy going: 4.4% from 114.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 18 | 4 | 22.2% | +13.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 231 | 30 | 13% | +4.3 | 1 from 3 |
| Good | 390 | 26 | 6.7% | −2 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Soft | 235 | 22 | 9.4% | +0.7 | — |
| Soft | 270 | 18 | 6.7% | −2 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 114 | 5 | 4.4% | −4.3 | 0 from 7 |
| Standard (AW) | 260 | 27 | 10.4% | +1.7 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 13 | 2 | 15.4% | +6.7 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 56 | 2 | 3.6% | −5.1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 409 | 39 | 9.5% | +0.8 | 1 from 9 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 480 | 45 | 9.4% | +0.7 | 0 from 6 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 283 | 22 | 7.8% | −0.9 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 237 | 18 | 7.6% | −1.1 | — |
| Over 3m | 40 | 4 | 10% | +1.3 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Palace Theatre (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heavy | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Firm | 3 | 1 | 33% | +0.50 |
| Good | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Curragh | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Leopardstown | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Cork | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Gowran Park | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tralee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Roscommon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tipperary | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.50 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 9 | 1 | 11% | −5.50 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Declan McDonogh | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Wayne Lordan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Johnny Murtagh | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Colm O'Donoghue | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Mr P Cashman | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kieren Fallon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mick Kinane | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fran Berry | 1 | 1 | 100% | +2.50 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 13 | 1 | 8% | −9.50 |
| Hood + visor | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2006 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2005 | 6 | 1 | 17% | −2.50 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2007 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 01 Jul 07+7d | Curragh | Arthur Guinness EBF Handicap | 10/17 | nk | 9-4 | 87 | 72C | Declan McDonogh | 12/1 |
| 24 Jun 07+7d | Gowran Park | Dove Hill Irish Design Centre Handicap (60-100) | 2/11 | 2 | 9-9 | 87 | 89C | Declan McDonogh | 8/1 |
| 17 Jun 07+77d | Cork | Kerry Group Noblesse Stakes (Fillies Group 3) | 10/11 | 1 | 9-9 | 87 | 43C | Colm O'Donoghue | 33/1 |
| 01 Apr 07+161d | Navan | Ennistown Stud EBF Salsabil Stakes (Fillies Listed) | 5/11 | nk | 9-11 | 83 | 78C | Wayne Lordan | 33/1 |
| 2006 · 5 runs | |||||||||
| 22 Oct 06+28d | Curragh | Carmel Keatley Memorial Handicap (60-90) | 14/16 | 13 | 9-11 | 83 | 67C | Wayne Lordan | 7/1 |
| 24 Sep 06+25d | Listowel | Slan Abhaile (QR) Race | 2/15 | 1¼ | 10-10 | 83 | 61C | Mr P Cashman | 7/4F |
| 30 Aug 06+12d | Tralee | Guinness Gold Cup Premier Handicap | 2/13 | ¾ | 8-13 | 80 | 76C | Declan McDonogh | 14/1 |
| 18 Aug 06+120d | Roscommon | Irish Stallion Farms EBF (Fillies) Handicap (60-90) | 8/14 | ½ | 9-8 | 81 | 64C | Kieren Fallon | 12/1 |
| 20 Apr 06+165d | Tipperary | Thomastown Castle Race | 3/18 | 3½ | 9-5 | 81 | 69C | Wayne Lordan | 12/1 |
| 2005 · 6 runs | |||||||||
| 06 Nov 05+6d | Leopardstown | Ravens Rock Handicap | 4/20 | ½ | 9-1 | 84 | 87C | Johnny Murtagh | 10/1 |
| 31 Oct 05+22d | Leopardstown | Elmwood Handicap (60-90) | 3/12 | 10 | 9-4 | 85 | 58C | Johnny Murtagh | 6/1 |
| 09 Oct 05+119d | Curragh | Rathbarry Stud's Barathea Finale Stakes (Listed) | 10/13 | 2 | 8-9 | 87 | 76C | Colm O'Donoghue | 50/1 |
| 12 Jun 05+25d | Cork | Kerry Group EBF Noblesse Stakes (Fillies Group 3) | 7/10 | nk | 8-7 | — | — | Mick Kinane | 4/1 |
| 18 May 05+38d | Fairyhouse | Fillies Maiden | 1/7 | 9-0 | — | 55C | Fran Berry | 5/2 | |
| 10 Apr 05 | Leopardstown | Leopardstown Golf Centre Maiden | 4/12 | 2 | 8-11 | — | 69C | Johnny Murtagh | 12/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Whoneedswings won?
- Whoneedswings (IRE) won 1 of 15 archived starts between 2005 and 2007, a strike rate of 6.7%. Placed 7 times in total (46.7% of starts).
- Who trained Whoneedswings?
- Whoneedswings (IRE) was trained by David Wachman on the most recent run on record, at Curragh on 1 July 2007.
- Who is Whoneedswings's sire?
- Whoneedswings (IRE) is by In The Wings (GB) out of Luminary (GB), whose sire is Kalaglow.
- What going does Whoneedswings prefer?
- Whoneedswings (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Whoneedswings's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 1 July 2007. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Whoneedswings's sire's record?
- In The Wings (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 1,518 runs since Jan 2008 (110 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 13% from 231. Weakest on heavy going: 4.4% from 114.
- Who are Whoneedswings's siblings?
- Out of Luminary (GB), Whoneedswings (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.