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Horse profile

With Promise (GB)

4yo gelding (at last run, Feb 2021) · Last trainer William Knight · Last owner Abdulla Al Mansoori
by Shamardal (USA) out of Magical Crown (USA) (Distorted Humor)
10 runs · 7 courses · from Aug 2019
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 16 Feb 2021 — 2,080 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2021 · 8th of 10 Won at Yarmouth Last raced off OR 69
KTB Profile

With Promise (GB) is 1 from 10, the win coming at Class 4 level. Hasn't won since Aug 2019. The win came on turf — 0 from 7 on the all-weather.

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Won on turf, 0 on AW Win at Class 4
Official rating69↓ 6lb off peak
69 69–75

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 91 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Newcastle (AW), 28 Jan 2021

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Flat 10 figures · best 109A · median 85
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)7109A89—
Good to Firm282C76—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f7109A84—
1m – 1m1f393B89—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 10 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 85A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newcastle (AW), 28 Jan 2021 Official rating 69 at the last run, 16 Feb 2021

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 10 figures · best 85A · median 70.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)785A68—
Good to Firm280A76.5—
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f785A73—
1m – 1m1f384A68—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 10 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 14.8% of 10,412 runs since Jan 2008 (1,008 horses).

Weakest on soft going: 11.7% from 1,288. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.3% from 475.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm571119.3%+4.5—
Good to Firm1,98130615.4%+0.61 from 2
Good2,38733514%−0.80 from 1
Good to Soft1,01312412.2%−2.6—
Soft1,28815111.7%−3.1—
Heavy3704512.2%−2.6—
Standard (AW)3,31556417%+2.20 from 7
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f5838714.9%+0.1—
6f – 7f4,07359314.6%−0.21 from 7
1m – 1m1f2,98547615.9%+1.10 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f2,07431315.1%+0.3—
1m5f – 2m475449.3%−5.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1802111.7%−3.1—
2m5f – 3m3825.3%−9.5—
Over 3m400%−14.8—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Magical Crown (USA) (Distorted Humor)

6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Good Effort (IRE) (9 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Listed (Good Effort (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Good Effort (IRE)2895f–7fListed
Magical Mile (IRE)2741m–1m2fClass 5
Frostmagic (IRE)1931m–1m4fClass 5
Crown Of Light (IRE)416fClass 4
Blue Victory (IRE)30——
Dawn Crusade (IRE)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 7 0 0% −7.00
Good to Firm 2 1 50% +13.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 4 2 1 50% +13.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newcastle (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Yarmouth 1 1 100% +14.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 7 1 14% +8.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Callum Shepherd 4 0 0% −4.00
Tom Queally 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Kelly 2 0 0% −2.00
William Buick 1 0 0% −1.00
Daniel Muscutt 1 1 100% +14.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 8 1 13% +7.00
Visor 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2021 2 0 0% −2.00
2020 7 0 0% −7.00
2019 1 1 100% +14.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2021 · 2 runs
16 Feb 21+19d Newcastle (AW) Bombardier Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 10 ran 8/10 1 9-1 6986A68A Callum Shepherd 5/1
28 Jan 21+90d Newcastle (AW) Bombardier 'March To Your Own Drum' Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 7 ran 2/7 1½ 9-6 6991A85A Callum Shepherd 7/2
2020 · 7 runs
30 Oct 20+14d Newcastle (AW) Bombardier 'March To Your Own Drum' Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 14 ran 11/14 nse 9-3 7084B66A William Buick 7/1
16 Oct 20+15d Newcastle (AW) Sky Sports Racing HD Virgin 535 Handicap (Div 1) Class 5 · 8f · Standard · 8 ran 2/8 2 9-9 7089A84A Callum Shepherd 15/2
01 Oct 20+26d Chelmsford City (AW) chelmsfordcityracecourse.com Handicap Class 4 · 8f · Standard · 15 ran 12/15 ¾ 9-1 7293B57A Callum Shepherd 13/2
05 Sep 20+13d Kempton (AW) Try Our New Price Boosts At Unibet Handicap (Div 2) Class 5 · 8f · Standard To Slow · 12 ran 7/12 1¾ 9-4 7281A68A Tom Queally 4/1
23 Aug 20+21d Wolverhampton (AW) Free Tips Daily On attheraces.com Handicap (Div 2) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 3/11 ¾ 9-4 72109A84A Tom Queally 8/1
02 Aug 20+22d Sandown Oxshott Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Good · 11 ran 11/11 33 9-6 75-2C48C Shane Kelly 18/1
11 Jul 20+339d Salisbury Every Race Live On Racing TV Novice Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 6/14 ¾ 9-9 —82C80A Shane Kelly 8/1
2019 · 1 run
07 Aug 19 Yarmouth Matchbook EBF Future Stayers Novice Stakes (Plus 10) Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 5 ran 1/5 9-5 —70C73B Daniel Muscutt 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has With Promise won?
With Promise (GB) won 1 of 10 archived starts between 2019 and 2021, a strike rate of 10%. Placed 4 times in total (40% of starts).
Who trained With Promise?
With Promise (GB) was trained by William Knight on the most recent run on record, at Newcastle (AW) on 16 February 2021.
Who is With Promise's sire?
With Promise (GB) is by Shamardal (USA) out of Magical Crown (USA), whose sire is Distorted Humor.
What is With Promise's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 69, from the run on 16 February 2021. The highest on record is 75.
What is With Promise's sire's record?
Shamardal (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 14.8% of 10,412 runs since Jan 2008 (1,008 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 11.7% from 1,288. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 9.3% from 475.
Who are With Promise's siblings?
Out of Magical Crown (USA), With Promise (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Good Effort (IRE) (9). Highest grade won: Listed (Good Effort (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2019. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.