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Horse profile

Would I Lie To You (GB)

5yo gelding (at last run, May 2009) · Last trainer J R Jenkins · Last owner Miss Clare Hobson
by Bahamian Bounty (GB) out of Pallas Athene (GB) (Jupiter Island)
6 runs · 6 courses · from Nov 2008
As at 6 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 May 2009 — 6,381 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2009 · 9th of 9
KTB Profile

Would I Lie To You (GB) is yet to win from 6 starts.

Based on 6 archived runs · updated 6 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 85C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Folkestone, 18 Nov 2008

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 50C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Lingfield (AW), 31 Jan 2009

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 3 figures · best 85C · median 77
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m277C70.5—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Flat 3 figures · best 50C · median 46
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)250C47—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 6 Nov 2025
1m – 1m1f246C45—
6f – 7f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 6 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Bahamian Bounty (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 9,353 runs since Jan 2008 (598 horses).

Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 1% from 202.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1311511.5%+1.9—
Good to Firm2,0881989.5%−0.10 from 1
Good1,94019510.1%+0.50 from 1
Good to Soft99310911%+1.40 from 1
Soft892849.4%−0.20 from 1
Heavy198199.6%0—
Standard (AW)3,1112748.8%−0.80 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2,14824511.4%+1.8—
6f – 7f4,61746810.1%+0.50 from 1
1m – 1m1f1,6591408.4%−1.20 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f662385.7%−3.9—
1m5f – 2m20221%−8.60 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f4812.1%−7.50 from 1
2m5f – 3m1600%−9.6—
Over 3m100%−9.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Pallas Athene (GB) (Jupiter Island)

1 sibling in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Hensting House (GB)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Fakenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Yarmouth 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Folkestone 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 2 0 0% −2.00
6f – 7f 1 0 0% −1.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Simon Whitworth 2 0 0% −2.00
Matt Crawley 1 0 0% −1.00
Danny Brock 1 0 0% −1.00
Jay Pemberton 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Johnson 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2009 4 0 0% −4.00
2008 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt KTB Jockey SP
2009 · 4 runs
17 May 09+6d Fakenham Highline Adventure Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good · 9 ran 9/9 30 10-5 64C Matt Crawley 80/1
11 May 09+100d Yarmouth Weatherbys Bettrends.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 1m · Good To Firm · 11 ran 10/11 1 9-6 46C Danny Brock 250/1
31 Jan 09+21d Lingfield (AW) Play Roulette at williamhill.com Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 11/11 10 9-13 50C Simon Whitworth 100/1
10 Jan 09+30d Kempton (AW) Williamhill.com Sale - Enhanced Prices! Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 1m · Standard · 9 ran 8/9 1½ 10-0 44C Simon Whitworth 50/1
2008 · 2 runs
11 Dec 08+23d Huntingdon Bet Totepool On 0800 221 221 Conditionals' Intermediate NH Flat Race Class 5 · 2m · Good To Soft · 17 ran 16/17 30 10-11 77C Jay Pemberton 50/1
18 Nov 08 Folkestone Daily Mail Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 2m1½f · Soft · 11 ran 11/11 30 11-2 85C Richard Johnson 7/1

Quick answers

How many races has Would I Lie To You won?
Would I Lie To You (GB) has yet to win, from 6 archived starts between 2008 and 2009.
Who trained Would I Lie To You?
Would I Lie To You (GB) was trained by J R Jenkins on the most recent run on record, at Fakenham on 17 May 2009.
Who is Would I Lie To You's sire?
Would I Lie To You (GB) is by Bahamian Bounty (GB) out of Pallas Athene (GB), whose sire is Jupiter Island.
What is Would I Lie To You's sire's record?
Bahamian Bounty (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 9,353 runs since Jan 2008 (598 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 1% from 202.
Who are Would I Lie To You's siblings?
Out of Pallas Athene (GB), Would I Lie To You (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from November 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.