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Horse profile

Don't Tell Allen (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Apr 2023) · Last trainer James Ewart · Last owner Raymond Cooper
by Presenting (GB) out of Liss Alainn (IRE) (Flemensfirth)
13 runs · 10 courses · from Jan 2020
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 17 Apr 2023 — 1,297 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2023 · 10th of 14 Won at Wexford Headgear returns LTO Last raced off OR 104
KTB Profile

Don't Tell Allen won one of 13 starts on turf, the success coming at Wexford in Jun 2022 in a maiden hurdle over 2m5f – 3m on soft ground off an official rating of 109. The gelding, by Presenting out of a Flemensfirth mare, reached a highest ever mark of 112. He finished 10 of 14 in a Class 5 handicap chase at Kelso in Apr 2023 when last raced off OR 104, 8lb below his career-high mark, with headgear returning.

Based on 13 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 8lb off peak
Official rating104↓ 8lb off peak
104 104–112

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 130 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Wexford, 8 Jun 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 7 figures · best 130A · median 84
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good390C77—
Soft3130A106—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f3106B90—
2m5f – 3m2130A103.5—
1m5f – 2m284C70—

Of 13 runs looked at, 6 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (3) · did not complete (2) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 13 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 112A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kelso, 17 Apr 2023 Official rating 104 at the last jumps run, 17 Apr 2023

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 70C the best of the last 1 rated run · Navan, 14 Mar 2020

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 10 figures · best 124A · median 105.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft4124A105.5—
Good3112A105—
Good to Soft2112A107—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m4124A108.5—
2m1f – 2m4f4112A105.5—
1m5f – 2m2122B108.5—
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 13 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 11 figures from 13 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Presenting (GB)

Progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,052 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm621321%+10—
Good to Firm1,24017113.8%+2.8—
Good7,02484012%+10 from 4
Good to Soft3,5033219.2%−1.80 from 3
Soft5,32754510.2%−0.81 from 4
Heavy2,7602749.9%−1.10 from 2
Standard (AW)1363324.3%+13.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f500%−11—
1m – 1m1f400%−11—
1m2f – 1m4f6269.7%−1.3—
1m5f – 2m4,72751710.9%−0.10 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f6,69772210.8%−0.20 from 4
2m5f – 3m6,53974211.3%+0.31 from 5
Over 3m2,01821010.4%−0.60 from 1

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Liss Alainn (IRE) (Flemensfirth)

5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Next Destination (IRE) (7 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m1½f; the highest grade won is Grade 1 (Next Destination (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Next Destination (IRE)1272m–3mGrade 1
John Adams (IRE)2122m7f–3m1½f—
Imperial Nemesis (IRE)190——
Little Trixie (IRE)70——
Overall Majority (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 4 1 25% +8.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ayr 2 0 0% −2.00
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Navan 2 0 0% −2.00
Kelso 1 0 0% −1.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford 1 1 100% +11.00
Tipperary 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 5 1 20% +7.00
2m1f – 2m4f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
Over 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Edward Austin 4 0 0% −4.00
Denis O'Regan 3 0 0% −3.00
Jack Foley 2 0 0% −2.00
Ian Power 1 1 100% +11.00
Danny Mullins 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Derek O'Connor 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr P W Mullins 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 11 1 9% +1.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 2 0 0% −2.00
2022 8 1 13% +4.00
2021 1 0 0% −1.00
2020 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 6 1 17% +6.00
Chase 5 0 0% −5.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2023 · 2 runs
17 Apr 23+73d Kelso Kings Own Scottish Borderers Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m5½f · Good · 14 ran 10/14 1½ 11-8 10477B112A Edward Austin 22/1
03 Feb 23+43d Catterick racingtv.com Handicap Chase Class 5 · 2m3f · Good · 9 ran 4/9 9½ 11-11 10757A105B Edward Austin 9/2
2022 · 8 runs
22 Dec 22+54d Ayr Coral Committed To Safer Gambling Handicap Chase Class 3 · 3m · Good To Soft · 8 ran 5/8 1¾ 10-7 109—102A Edward Austin 16/1
29 Oct 22+101d Ayr marineandlawn.com Handicap Chase Class 4 · 2m4½f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 4/9 3½ 11-11 112—112A Edward Austin 33/1
20 Jul 22+10d Limerick Glin Beginners Chase 2m3½f · Good · 7 ran 3/7 30 11-12 —90C105C Denis O'Regan 33/1
10 Jul 22+32d Sligo Sligo Park Hotel Handicap Hurdle 3m2f · Good To Yielding · 11 ran PU/11 — 12-0 112—— Denis O'Regan 7/2F
08 Jun 22+20d Wexford Visitwexford.ie Maiden Hurdle 3m½f · Yielding · 12 ran 1/12 11-4 109130A124A Ian Power 11/1
19 May 22+74d Tipperary Tipperary Maiden Hurdle 3m · Good · 15 ran PU/15 — 11-4 111—— Danny Mullins 15/2
06 Mar 22+48d Leopardstown Donohoe Marquees Maiden Hurdle 2m4f · Yielding · 10 ran 5/10 2¾ 11-7 —106B106A Jack Foley 20/1
17 Jan 22+22d Punchestown Hollywoodbets Powering Jamie Moore And Daniel Muscutt Maiden Hurdle 3m · Soft · 11 ran 5/11 11 12-0 ——105C Denis O'Regan 28/1
2021 · 1 run
26 Dec 21+652d Leopardstown Thorntons Recycling Maiden Hurdle 2m · Soft · 18 ran 10/18 4¾ 11-9 —56C95C Jack Foley 40/1
2020 · 2 runs
14 Mar 20+56d Navan Racing Again March 28th (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m · Heavy · 11 ran 4/11 27 12-0 ——70C Mr Derek O'Connor 5/2
18 Jan 20 Navan Only 1000 RacingTV Trials Available (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m · Soft To Heavy · 5 ran 2/5 8½ 11-12 —84C122B Mr P W Mullins 5/1

Quick answers

How many races has Don't Tell Allen won?
Don't Tell Allen (IRE) won 1 of 13 archived starts between 2020 and 2023, a strike rate of 7.7%. Placed 2 times in total (15.4% of starts).
Who trained Don't Tell Allen?
Don't Tell Allen (IRE) was trained by James Ewart on the most recent run on record, at Kelso on 17 April 2023.
Who is Don't Tell Allen's sire?
Don't Tell Allen (IRE) is by Presenting (GB) out of Liss Alainn (IRE), whose sire is Flemensfirth.
What going does Don't Tell Allen prefer?
Don't Tell Allen (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Don't Tell Allen's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 104, from the run on 17 April 2023. The highest on record is 112.
What is Don't Tell Allen's sire's record?
Presenting (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11% of 20,052 runs since Jan 2008 (1,686 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 24.3% from 136.
Who are Don't Tell Allen's siblings?
Out of Liss Alainn (IRE), Don't Tell Allen (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Next Destination (IRE) (7). Highest grade won: Grade 1 (Next Destination (IRE)). The wins came over 2m–3m1½f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from January 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.