Dont Tell Pa (IRE)
Dont Tell Pa (IRE) is 3 from 24. Hasn't won since Nov 2012. Last raced off a career-high mark of 117.
- 3–24Wins / Runs
- 12.5%Strike rate
- 7 (29.2%)Placed
- −9.25£1 level staken=24 at SP
- 1.60Fair A/E n=24 · 1.22 incl. margin
- 117Highest OR
- 28dBetween runs (median)longest 352 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 16,543 runs since Jan 2008 (1,456 horses).
Strongest on standard (aw) going: 18.1% from 105.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 58 | 5 | 8.6% | −2.3 | — |
| Good to Firm | 760 | 64 | 8.4% | −2.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 4,658 | 479 | 10.3% | −0.6 | 0 from 7 |
| Good to Soft | 2,804 | 358 | 12.8% | +1.9 | — |
| Soft | 5,006 | 540 | 10.8% | −0.1 | 1 from 10 |
| Heavy | 3,152 | 345 | 10.9% | 0 | 2 from 6 |
| Standard (AW) | 105 | 19 | 18.1% | +7.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 6 | 1 | 16.7% | +5.8 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 7 | 2 | 28.6% | +17.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 90 | 8 | 8.9% | −2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 4,439 | 514 | 11.6% | +0.7 | 2 from 18 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5,912 | 630 | 10.7% | −0.2 | 1 from 5 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 4,996 | 537 | 10.7% | −0.2 | 0 from 1 |
| Over 3m | 1,093 | 118 | 10.8% | −0.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Amron Kali (IRE) (3 wins).
The wins came over 2m1½f–2m7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Amron Kali (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Amron Kali (IRE) | 36 | 3 | 2m1½f–2m7f | Class 4 |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 10 | 1 | 10% | −4.00 |
| Good | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Heavy | 6 | 2 | 33% | +2.75 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tramore | 4 | 1 | 25% | +2.00 |
| Killarney | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Galway | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Leopardstown | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Thurles | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Limerick | 2 | 2 | 100% | +6.75 |
| Clonmel | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Gowran Park | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Cork | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fakenham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Huntingdon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Listowel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m5f – 2m | 18 | 2 | 11% | −8.25 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 5 | 1 | 20% | +0.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Miss J M Mangan | 10 | 3 | 30% | +4.75 |
| Patrick Mangan | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Richard Johnson | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Phillip Enright | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tom Scudamore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ben Dalton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr H D Dunne | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Martin Ferris | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Shane Butler | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tongue tie | 13 | 3 | 23% | +1.75 |
| None | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Tongue tie + cheekpieces | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| 2013 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2012 | 11 | 3 | 27% | +3.75 |
| 2011 | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 21 | 3 | 14% | −6.25 |
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
Quick answers
- How many races has Dont Tell Pa won?
- Dont Tell Pa (IRE) won 3 of 24 archived starts between 2011 and 2014, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 7 times in total (29.2% of starts).
- Who trained Dont Tell Pa?
- Dont Tell Pa (IRE) was trained by David Brace on the most recent run on record, at Chepstow on 20 November 2014.
- Who is Dont Tell Pa's sire?
- Dont Tell Pa (IRE) is by Oscar (IRE) out of Glacial Snowboard (IRE), whose sire is Glacial Storm.
- What going does Dont Tell Pa prefer?
- Dont Tell Pa (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 6 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Dont Tell Pa's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 117, from the run on 20 November 2014. That is also the highest on record.
- What is Dont Tell Pa's sire's record?
- Oscar (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 16,543 runs since Jan 2008 (1,456 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 18.1% from 105.
- Who are Dont Tell Pa's siblings?
- Out of Glacial Snowboard (IRE), Dont Tell Pa (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Amron Kali (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Amron Kali (IRE)). The wins came over 2m1½f–2m7f. As at Nov 2026.