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Horse profile

Dont Tell Pa (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2014) · Last trainer David Brace · Last owner David Brace
by Oscar (IRE) out of Glacial Snowboard (IRE) (Glacial Storm)
24 runs · 13 courses · from Apr 2011
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 20 Nov 2014 — 4,367 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2014 · 5th of 5 3 wins · Limerick & Tramore Last raced off OR 117
KTB Profile

Dont Tell Pa (IRE) is 3 from 24. Hasn't won since Nov 2012. Last raced off a career-high mark of 117.

Based on 24 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance OR at career high
Official rating117At career-high mark
117 82–117

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 133A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Huntingdon, 14 Oct 2014 Official rating 117 at the last jumps run, 20 Nov 2014

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 62C the best of the last 1 rated run · Killarney, 16 Jul 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 22 figures · best 133A · median 93.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Soft9133A106—
Good6118A89.5—
Heavy6130A98.5—
Good to Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
1m5f – 2m17133A102—
2m1f – 2m4f4118A86—
2m5f – 3m1———
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 24 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 23 figures from 24 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Oscar (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 16,543 runs since Jan 2008 (1,456 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 18.1% from 105.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm5858.6%−2.3—
Good to Firm760648.4%−2.50 from 1
Good4,65847910.3%−0.60 from 7
Good to Soft2,80435812.8%+1.9—
Soft5,00654010.8%−0.11 from 10
Heavy3,15234510.9%02 from 6
Standard (AW)1051918.1%+7.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
6f – 7f6116.7%+5.8—
1m – 1m1f7228.6%+17.7—
1m2f – 1m4f9088.9%−2—
1m5f – 2m4,43951411.6%+0.72 from 18
2m1f – 2m4f5,91263010.7%−0.21 from 5
2m5f – 3m4,99653710.7%−0.20 from 1
Over 3m1,09311810.8%−0.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Glacial Snowboard (IRE) (Glacial Storm)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Amron Kali (IRE) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m1½f–2m7f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Amron Kali (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Amron Kali (IRE)3632m1½f–2m7fClass 4

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 10 1 10% −4.00
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Heavy 6 2 33% +2.75
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Tramore 4 1 25% +2.00
Killarney 2 0 0% −2.00
Galway 2 0 0% −2.00
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Limerick 2 2 100% +6.75
Clonmel 2 0 0% −2.00
Gowran Park 2 0 0% −2.00
Cork 2 0 0% −2.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Fakenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 18 2 11% −8.25
2m1f – 2m4f 5 1 20% +0.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Miss J M Mangan 10 3 30% +4.75
Patrick Mangan 5 0 0% −5.00
Richard Johnson 2 0 0% −2.00
Phillip Enright 2 0 0% −2.00
Tom Scudamore 1 0 0% −1.00
Ben Dalton 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr H D Dunne 1 0 0% −1.00
Martin Ferris 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Butler 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Tongue tie 13 3 23% +1.75
None 8 0 0% −8.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 4 0 0% −4.00
2013 2 0 0% −2.00
2012 11 3 27% +3.75
2011 7 0 0% −7.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 21 3 14% −6.25
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2014 · 4 runs
20 Nov 14+27d Chepstow AMSS Atlas Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 5 ran 5/5 74 11-9 11784C Tom Scudamore 4/1
24 Oct 14+10d Fakenham Kettle Chips Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m · Good · 7 ran 7/7 20 10-5 11486C Richard Johnson 5/1
14 Oct 14+90d Huntingdon Molson Coors Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Soft · 9 ran 2/9 1¼ 11-12 114133A Richard Johnson 8/1
16 Jul 14+352d Killarney John Buckley Auctioneers Maiden 1m6f · Good · 11 ran 9/11 9½ 10-5 —62C Miss J M Mangan 50/1
2013 · 2 runs
29 Jul 13+170d Galway Sean 'The Budgie' Burgess Memorial Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 2m · Good · 20 ran 15/20 16 11-0 11694C Miss J M Mangan 20/1
09 Feb 13+43d Leopardstown paddypower.com iPhone Fast Bet Handicap Hurdle (0-140) 2m · Soft · 24 ran 15/24 nk 9-13 117102A Miss J M Mangan 20/1
2012 · 11 runs
28 Dec 12+28d Leopardstown Star Best For Racing Christmas Rated Hurdle 2m · Soft · 16 ran 10/16 ¾ 10-11 117106A Ben Dalton 8/1
30 Nov 12+19d Thurles Horse & Jockey Handicap Hurdle (80-116) 2m · Soft · 16 ran 2/16 2¼ 11-3 114123A Miss J M Mangan 3/1F
11 Nov 12+28d Limerick Limerick Racecourse Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 2m · Heavy · 8 ran 1/8 11-5 102130A Miss J M Mangan 11/4
14 Oct 12+3d Limerick Greenmount Park Handicap Hurdle (80-109) 2m2f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 1/16 10-4 82118A Miss J M Mangan 4/1F
11 Oct 12+22d Tramore Tramore Racecourse On Facebook Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m · Soft · 13 ran 1/13 10-12 88122A Miss J M Mangan 5/1
19 Sep 12+13d Listowel M.s.d Animal Health Maiden Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 16 ran 5/16 3¾ 11-5 87106A Miss J M Mangan 33/1
06 Sep 12+97d Clonmel Giantsgrave Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m4f · Good · 18 ran 12/18 2½ 10-12 8883A Miss J M Mangan 16/1
01 Jun 12+1d Tramore Dunhill Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m · Good To Firm · 15 ran 9/15 3½ 11-6 8884A Phillip Enright 10/3F
31 May 12+47d Clonmel Powerstown Park Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m½f · Good · 18 ran 4/18 2½ 11-5 88118A Phillip Enright 9/2F
14 Apr 12+56d Tramore Graun Hill Suite Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m · Yielding To Soft · 16 ran 2/16 ¾ 10-12 84120A Patrick Mangan 20/1
18 Feb 12+49d Gowran Park Goresbridge Handicap Hurdle (81-123) 2m4f · Soft · 15 ran PU/15 — 9-3 84— Mr H D Dunne 40/1
2011 · 7 runs
31 Dec 11+20d Tramore www.tramore-racecourse.com Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m5f · Soft · 13 ran 7/13 4½ 10-10 8282A Patrick Mangan 10/1
11 Dec 11+24d Cork Follow Us On Twitter Novice Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 2m4f · Soft To Heavy · 21 ran 9/21 14 10-12 8886C Patrick Mangan 20/1
17 Nov 11+26d Thurles Cahir Maiden Hurdle 2m · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 8/16 7 10-13 —91C Patrick Mangan 50/1
22 Oct 11+6d Galway Corrib Oil Sean Cleary Memorial Maiden Hurdle 2m · Heavy · 17 ran 12/17 hd 11-8 —90C Martin Ferris 66/1
16 Oct 11+154d Cork www.corkracecourse.ie Maiden Hurdle 2m · Yielding · 20 ran 17/20 1 11-2 —80C Patrick Mangan 50/1
15 May 11+28d Killarney Jim Ryan Racecourse Services (Pro/Am) Flat Race 2m1f · Good · 18 ran 11/18 9 11-0 —86C Miss J M Mangan 14/1
17 Apr 11 Gowran Park Inistioge (Pro/Am) Flat Race (Div 2) 2m · Good · 17 ran 9/17 3½ 11-0 —93A Shane Butler 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Dont Tell Pa won?
Dont Tell Pa (IRE) won 3 of 24 archived starts between 2011 and 2014, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 7 times in total (29.2% of starts).
Who trained Dont Tell Pa?
Dont Tell Pa (IRE) was trained by David Brace on the most recent run on record, at Chepstow on 20 November 2014.
Who is Dont Tell Pa's sire?
Dont Tell Pa (IRE) is by Oscar (IRE) out of Glacial Snowboard (IRE), whose sire is Glacial Storm.
What going does Dont Tell Pa prefer?
Dont Tell Pa (IRE) has the best record on heavy going: 2 wins from 6 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Dont Tell Pa's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 117, from the run on 20 November 2014. That is also the highest on record.
What is Dont Tell Pa's sire's record?
Oscar (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.9% of 16,543 runs since Jan 2008 (1,456 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 18.1% from 105.
Who are Dont Tell Pa's siblings?
Out of Glacial Snowboard (IRE), Dont Tell Pa (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Amron Kali (IRE) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Amron Kali (IRE)). The wins came over 2m1½f–2m7f. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.