A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
KTB Rating
Best recent KTB Rating82Cthe best of the last 3 rated runs · Limerick, 28 Dec 2008Official rating 81at the last run, 1 Feb 2009
What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →
Jumps 5 figures · best 93C · median 81
Going
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
Heavy
2
81C
76.5
—
Soft
1
—
—
—
Firm
1
—
—
—
Good
1
—
—
—
Distance
Runs
Best
Median
Since 27 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f
3
82C
78
—
1m5f – 2m
2
93C
87
—
Of 8 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2) · no runner of known ability in the race — the level cannot be solved (1).
KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Supreme Leader (GB)
Progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 2,984 runs since Jan 2008 (349 horses).
Going
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
Firm
26
2
7.7%
−1.5
0 from 1
Good to Firm
184
18
9.8%
+0.6
—
Good
665
57
8.6%
−0.6
0 from 2
Good to Soft
470
44
9.4%
+0.2
—
Soft
885
85
9.6%
+0.4
0 from 1
Heavy
744
66
8.9%
−0.3
0 from 4
Standard (AW)
10
2
20%
+10.8
—
Distance (all codes)
Runs
Wins
SR
vs sire
This horse
1m2f – 1m4f
9
0
0%
−9.2
—
1m5f – 2m
575
55
9.6%
+0.4
0 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f
1,066
105
9.8%
+0.6
0 from 4
2m5f – 3m
1,019
91
8.9%
−0.3
0 from 1
Over 3m
315
23
7.3%
−1.9
—
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Echoes Leader (IRE) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts between 2006 and 2009.
Who trained Echoes Leader?
Echoes Leader (IRE) was trained by Patrick Cronin on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 1 February 2009.
Who is Echoes Leader's sire?
Echoes Leader (IRE) is by Supreme Leader (GB) out of Nicenames (IRE), whose sire is Decent Fellow.
What is Echoes Leader's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 81, from the run on 1 February 2009. The highest on record is 83.
What is Echoes Leader's sire's record?
Supreme Leader (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.2% of 2,984 runs since Jan 2008 (349 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Echoes Leader's siblings?
Out of Nicenames (IRE), Echoes Leader (IRE) has 1 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.
Echoes Leader (IRE)·0–8·SR 0%
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