Elusive Joe (IRE)
Elusive Joe (IRE) is yet to win from 8 starts.
- 0–8Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 0 (0%)Placed
- −8.00£1 level staken=8 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=8 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 68Highest OR
- 35dBetween runs (median)longest 298 d
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 8,427 runs since Apr 2008 (636 horses).
Weakest on soft going: 6.4% from 1,123.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 46 | 13 | 28.3% | +18.6 | — |
| Good to Firm | 905 | 101 | 11.2% | +1.5 | 0 from 1 |
| Good | 1,463 | 127 | 8.7% | −1 | 0 from 1 |
| Good to Soft | 898 | 72 | 8% | −1.7 | 0 from 1 |
| Soft | 1,123 | 72 | 6.4% | −3.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 329 | 23 | 7% | −2.7 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 3,663 | 413 | 11.3% | +1.6 | 0 from 3 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 998 | 104 | 10.4% | +0.7 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 4,122 | 438 | 10.6% | +0.9 | 0 from 7 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 2,274 | 204 | 9% | −0.7 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 691 | 52 | 7.5% | −2.2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 210 | 15 | 7.1% | −2.6 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 97 | 6 | 6.2% | −3.5 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 33 | 2 | 6.1% | −3.6 | — |
| Over 3m | 2 | 0 | 0% | −9.7 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2008 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Heartsong (IRE) (8 wins).
The wins came over 5f–1m5f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Harwoods Volante (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Heartsong (IRE) | 56 | 8 | 5f–6f | Class 4 |
| Harwoods Volante (IRE) | 52 | 6 | 6f–7f | Class 3 |
| Bolder Bob (IRE) | 21 | 4 | 1m4f–1m5f | Class 3 |
| Never Said Nothing (IRE) | 38 | 4 | 1m–1m½f | Class 6 |
| Robert Fitzroy (IRE) | 10 | 1 | 1m3½f | Class 6 |
| Never Seen Again (IRE) | 7 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dundalk (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Naas | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Seamie Heffernan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Ben Curtis | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| N G McCullagh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| L P Dempsey | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| J F Egan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Hood | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie + cheekpieces | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2013 | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| 2012 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2014 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 17 Jun 14+18d | Sligo | Pet Stop Discount Warehouse And Fuel Centre Carraroe Sligo Handicap (47-65) | 12/14 | 4½ | 9-12 | 61 | 45C | N G McCullagh | 16/1 |
| 30 May 14+298d | Down Royal | Nokia Handicap (47-65) | 9/14 | nk | 9-4 | 62 | 57A | L P Dempsey | 20/1 |
| 2013 · 5 runs | |||||||||
| 05 Aug 13+12d | Naas | www.naasracecourse.com Handicap | 16/16 | 2¾ | 9-6 | 68 | 42C | Ben Curtis | 25/1 |
| 24 Jul 13+39d | Naas | Network Ireland Kildare Supporting Women In Business Maiden | 5/10 | 3 | 9-5 | — | 63A | Ben Curtis | 16/1 |
| 15 Jun 13+141d | Limerick | Jigabite Playing Live 21st June Maiden | PU/13 | — | 9-5 | — | — | Seamie Heffernan | 33/1 |
| 25 Jan 13+14d | Dundalk (AW) | Dundalk Stadium - Light Up Your Night Maiden | 10/12 | nse | 9-5 | — | 47A | Seamie Heffernan | 8/1 |
| 11 Jan 13+35d | Dundalk (AW) | Crowne Plaza Hotel Race & Stay Maiden | 8/14 | shd | 9-5 | — | 68A | J F Egan | 25/1 |
| 2012 · 1 run | |||||||||
| 07 Dec 12 | Dundalk (AW) | Irish Stallion Farms E.B.F. Maiden | 7/14 | 1 | 9-5 | — | 67A | Seamie Heffernan | 25/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Elusive Joe won?
- Elusive Joe (IRE) has yet to win, from 8 archived starts between 2012 and 2014.
- Who trained Elusive Joe?
- Elusive Joe (IRE) was trained by J P Dempsey on the most recent run on record, at Sligo on 17 June 2014.
- Who is Elusive Joe's sire?
- Elusive Joe (IRE) is by Elusive City (USA) out of Semiquaver (IRE), whose sire is Mark Of Esteem.
- What is Elusive Joe's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 61, from the run on 17 June 2014. The highest on record is 68.
- What is Elusive Joe's sire's record?
- Elusive City (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 8,427 runs since Apr 2008 (636 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on soft going: 6.4% from 1,123.
- Who are Elusive Joe's siblings?
- Out of Semiquaver (IRE), Elusive Joe (IRE) has 6 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Heartsong (IRE) (8). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Harwoods Volante (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m5f. As at Nov 2026.