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Horse profile

Forever Phoenix (GB)

5yo mare (at last run, Aug 2005) · Last trainer Robert Cowell · Last owner J M Greetham
by Shareef Dancer (USA) out of With Care (GB) (Warning)
10 runs · 8 courses · from May 2005
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Aug 2005 — 7,745 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2005 · 3rd of 17 Last raced off OR 95
KTB Profile

Forever Phoenix (GB) is yet to win from 10 starts, though has placed 3 times. Best effort: 2nd of 10 at Nottingham (May 2005).

Based on 10 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026

Progeny in our archive

Produce record

As a dam, Forever Phoenix (GB) has 4 produce in the archive, 4 winners — most wins Burn The Boats (IRE) (5 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m; the highest grade won is Listed (Rain Delayed (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Burn The Boats (IRE)4156½f–1m—
Rain Delayed (IRE)3045f–6fListed
Boom To Bust (IRE)2631m—
Body Beautiful (IRE)615f—
Official rating95↓ 2lb off peak
95 95–97

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 79C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chester, 31 Jul 2005 Official rating 95 at the last run, 6 Aug 2005

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 7 figures · best 79C · median 68
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good379C68—
Soft275C57—
Good to Firm1———
Standard (AW)1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Under 6f475C70—
6f – 7f379C45—

Of 10 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: no runner of known ability in the race — the level cannot be solved (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 7 figures from 10 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Shareef Dancer (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.1% of 37 runs since Jan 2008 (2 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm100%−8.1—
Good to Firm800%−8.10 from 2
Good17211.8%+3.70 from 5
Good to Soft500%−8.1—
Soft4125%+16.90 from 2
Heavy200%−8.1—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m5f – 2m200%−8.1—
2m1f – 2m4f18211.1%+3—
2m5f – 3m1616.3%−1.8—
Over 3m100%−8.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
With Care (GB) (Warning)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Very Wise (GB) (5 wins).

The wins came over 1m–1m2f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Very Wise (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Very Wise (GB)3551m–1m2fClass 2

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 1 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Haydock 3 0 0% −3.00
Chester 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
Under 6f 5 0 0% −5.00
6f – 7f 5 0 0% −5.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Amir Quinn 2 0 0% −2.00
Brett Doyle 2 0 0% −2.00
Tony Culhane 2 0 0% −2.00
Eddie Ahern 1 0 0% −1.00
Ryan Moore 1 0 0% −1.00
Adam Kirby 1 0 0% −1.00
Chris Catlin 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
06 Aug 05+6d Haydock Coral.co.uk Handicap Class 2 · 5f · Good To Firm · 17 ran 3/17 nk 8-10 9568C Amir Quinn 10/1
31 Jul 05+7d Chester Warwick International Queensferry Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 6f · Good · 8 ran 7/8 ¾ 8-9 9579C Eddie Ahern 12/1
24 Jul 05+6d Newbury Hong Kong Jockey Club Sprint (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 5f · Soft · 18 ran 6/18 hd 8-8 9575C Amir Quinn 12/1
18 Jul 05+9d Ayr Land O'Burns Fillies' Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 5f · Good · 11 ran 4/11 1 8-13 95— Brett Doyle 15/2
09 Jul 05+15d Lingfield (AW) Ladbrokes.com Handicap Class 2 · 5f · Standard · 10 ran 3/10 nk 9-1 9572C Brett Doyle 7/1
24 Jun 05+20d Newmarket Rundle And Co With The I.R.R.V. Fillies' Conditions Stakes Class 4 · 6f · Good · 8 ran 4/8 1 8-5 97— Ryan Moore 11/2
04 Jun 05+7d Haydock Cecil Frail Stakes (Fillies' Listed) Class 1 · 6f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 2 9-0 9745C Tony Culhane 10/1
28 May 05+14d Musselburgh VC Bet Scottish Sprint Cup Heritage Handicap Class 2 · 5f · Good · 17 ran 11/17 hd 9-5 9768C Adam Kirby 5/1
14 May 05+7d Nottingham Totesport Fillies' Stakes (Listed) Class 1 · 6f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 2/10 ½ 9-3 —— Chris Catlin 8/1
07 May 05 Haydock Conditions Stakes Class 3 · 6f · Soft · 6 ran 6/6 3½ 8-8 —39C Tony Culhane 11/2

Quick answers

How many races has Forever Phoenix (GB) won?
Forever Phoenix (GB) has yet to win, from 10 archived starts in 2005. Placed 3 times in total (30% of starts).
Who trained Forever Phoenix (GB)?
Forever Phoenix (GB) was trained by Robert Cowell on the most recent run on record, at Haydock on 6 August 2005.
Who is Forever Phoenix (GB)'s sire?
Forever Phoenix (GB) is by Shareef Dancer (USA) out of With Care (GB), whose sire is Warning.
What is Forever Phoenix (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 6 August 2005. The highest on record is 97.
What is Forever Phoenix (GB)'s sire's record?
Shareef Dancer (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.1% of 37 runs since Jan 2008 (2 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Forever Phoenix (GB)'s siblings?
Out of With Care (GB), Forever Phoenix (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Very Wise (GB) (5). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Very Wise (GB)). The wins came over 1m–1m2f. As at Oct 2026.
Has Forever Phoenix (GB) produced winners?
As a dam, Forever Phoenix (GB) has 4 produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Burn The Boats (IRE) (5). Highest grade won: Listed (Rain Delayed (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.