Horse profile
Haggle Twins (IRE)
8yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2008) · Last trainer Charlie Mann · Last owner A F Merritt D Burgess P Cook
by Thowra (FR) out of Orwell Gaye (IRE) (Strong Gale)
22 runs · 16 courses · from Apr 2005
As at 27 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 29 Mar 2008 — 6,786 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2008 · 5th of 7
3 wins · Southwell, Thurles & Killarney
Last raced off OR 115
KTB Profile
Haggle Twins (IRE) is 3 from 22. Hasn't won since Jan 2007. Each win came on a first visit to the course. All 3 wins have come over 2m1f – 2m4f. Last raced off 115, 10lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 22 archived runs · updated 27 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
OR ↓ 10lb off peak
- 3–22Wins / Runs
- 13.6%Strike rate
- 10 (45.5%)Placed
- +11.00£1 level staken=22 at SP
- 1.36Fair A/E n=22 · 1.09 incl. margin
- 125Highest OR
- 52dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating115↓ 10lb off peak
115
106–125
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Thowra (FR)
Progeny in our archive have won 3.2% of 252 runs since Jan 2008 (37 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 43 | 2 | 4.7% | +1.5 | — |
| Good | 82 | 4 | 4.9% | +1.7 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 51 | 2 | 3.9% | +0.7 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 37 | 0 | 0% | −3.2 | 3 from 12 |
| Heavy | 24 | 0 | 0% | −3.2 | 0 from 5 |
| Standard (AW) | 12 | 0 | 0% | −3.2 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 11 | 0 | 0% | −3.2 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 72 | 5 | 6.9% | +3.7 | 0 from 1 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 68 | 2 | 2.9% | −0.3 | 3 from 15 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 82 | 1 | 1.2% | −2 | 0 from 6 |
| Over 3m | 19 | 0 | 0% | −3.2 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 27 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Orwell Gaye (IRE) (Strong Gale)
2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tile Lady (IRE) | 6 | 0 | — | — |
| Gayety (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 12 | 3 | 25% | +21.00 |
| Heavy | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 3 | 8 | 1 | 13% | +1.00 |
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 2 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Punchestown | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Navan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Bangor-on-Dee | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Market Rasen | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Chepstow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wetherby | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Aintree | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wincanton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Southwell | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Plumpton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Newbury | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tramore | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cork | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Thurles | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Killarney | 1 | 1 | 100% | +14.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 15 | 3 | 20% | +18.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dave Crosse | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| T G M Ryan | 4 | 2 | 50% | +20.00 |
| Noel Fehily | 3 | 1 | 33% | +6.00 |
| Tommy Treacy | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Mr Kevin Tobin | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Stephen Craine | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr J Quintin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| A E Lynch | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| J R Barry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Robbie Power | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Denis O'Regan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 15 | 3 | 20% | +18.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2007 | 7 | 1 | 14% | +2.00 |
| 2006 | 9 | 1 | 11% | +0.00 |
| 2005 | 4 | 1 | 25% | +11.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chase | 14 | 1 | 7% | −5.00 |
| Hurdle | 8 | 2 | 25% | +16.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 29 Mar 08+21d | Bangor-on-Dee | puredarts.co.uk Handicap Chase | 5/7 | 30 | 11-0 | 115 | 90C | Dave Crosse | 8/1 |
| 08 Mar 08+73d | Chepstow | Guinness Brewed In Dublin Handicap Chase | PU/10 | — | 11-4 | 117 | — | Dave Crosse | 17/2 |
| 2007 · 7 runs | |||||||||
| 26 Dec 07+31d | Wetherby | Turftv Handicap Chase | UR/9 | — | 10-13 | 117 | — | Mr Kevin Tobin | 5/2F |
| 25 Nov 07+259d | Aintree | totesportgames.com Handicap Hurdle | 3/15 | ½ | 11-0 | 125 | 124C | Stephen Craine | 14/1 |
| 11 Mar 07+7d | Market Rasen | No Commission Cheltenham Favourites WBX.com Handicap Chase | 2/10 | 4 | 11-5 | 113 | 107C | Mr J Quintin | 9/4F |
| 04 Mar 07+15d | Bangor-on-Dee | Hic-Cup Wines Ltd Handicap Chase | 3/6 | ½ | 11-10 | 113 | 100C | Noel Fehily | 7/2 |
| 17 Feb 07+21d | Wincanton | Bathwick Tyres Yeovil Handicap Hurdle | 3/12 | 18 | 11-7 | 125 | 98C | Noel Fehily | 13/2 |
| 27 Jan 07+12d | Southwell | skybet.com Handicap Hurdle | 1/7 | 11-0 | 117 | 111C | Noel Fehily | 8/1 | |
| 15 Jan 07+17d | Plumpton | Play Roulette & Blackjack at skybetvegas.com Handicap Hurdle | 2/7 | hd | 11-2 | 113 | 110C | Mr Kevin Tobin | 9/2 |
| 2006 · 9 runs | |||||||||
| 29 Dec 06+20d | Newbury | Stan James Mandarin Handicap Chase | 5/7 | 7 | 11-3 | 116 | 80C | Dave Crosse | 13/2 |
| 09 Dec 06+111d | Market Rasen | Gala Casino Handicap Chase | 2/6 | 11 | 11-4 | 117 | 104C | Dave Crosse | 8/1 |
| 20 Aug 06+117d | Tramore | Queally Group Handicap Chase (0-123) | 3/8 | 1¼ | 11-5 | 113 | 116C | Tommy Treacy | 8/1 |
| 25 Apr 06+10d | Punchestown | Evening Herald Handicap Hurdle (Listed) | 19/25 | 4 | 9-10 | 112 | 84C | Tommy Treacy | 25/1 |
| 15 Apr 06+21d | Cork | Property Partners D.Barry and Son Handicap Chase (0-123) | 8/20 | 1½ | 11-1 | 114 | 106C | A E Lynch | 12/1 |
| 25 Mar 06+16d | Navan | Athlumney Handicap Chase (0-123) | F/12 | — | 11-6 | 115 | — | T G M Ryan | 6/1 |
| 09 Mar 06+40d | Thurles | EBF Beginners Chase | 1/16 | 11-9 | 115 | 112C | T G M Ryan | 8/1 | |
| 28 Jan 06+14d | Navan | Scafhire Beginners Chase | 3/18 | hd | 11-12 | 109 | 115C | J R Barry | 8/1 |
| 14 Jan 06+19d | Punchestown | Kilteel Beginners Chase | 6/18 | 20 | 11-12 | — | 79C | Robbie Power | 12/1 |
| 2005 · 4 runs | |||||||||
| 26 Dec 05+232d | Limerick | Sliabh Luachra Beginners Chase | 5/16 | ¾ | 11-10 | — | 105C | Denis O'Regan | 8/1 |
| 08 May 05+10d | Killarney | Killarney Grand Hotel Handicap Hurdle (81-116) | 1/18 | 10-13 | 106 | 121C | T G M Ryan | 14/1 | |
| 28 Apr 05+26d | Punchestown | Lemongrass Restaurants Handicap Hurdle (88-130) | 16/25 | hd | 10-4 | 109 | 88C | T G M Ryan | 20/1 |
| 02 Apr 05 | Navan | N.I. Children's Hospice Handicap Hurdle (81-123) | 25/27 | 8 | 11-7 | 110 | 105C | Tommy Treacy | 10/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Haggle Twins won?
- Haggle Twins (IRE) won 3 of 22 archived starts between 2005 and 2008, a strike rate of 13.6%. Placed 10 times in total (45.5% of starts).
- Who trained Haggle Twins?
- Haggle Twins (IRE) was trained by Charlie Mann on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 29 March 2008.
- Who is Haggle Twins's sire?
- Haggle Twins (IRE) is by Thowra (FR) out of Orwell Gaye (IRE), whose sire is Strong Gale.
- What going does Haggle Twins prefer?
- Haggle Twins (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 3 wins from 12 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Haggle Twins's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 115, from the run on 29 March 2008. The highest on record is 125.
- What is Haggle Twins's sire's record?
- Thowra (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 3.2% of 252 runs since Jan 2008 (37 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Haggle Twins's siblings?
- Out of Orwell Gaye (IRE), Haggle Twins (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.