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If I Say So (GB)

7yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2021) · Last trainer Hugo Merienne · Last owner Mlle Laura Gomez Miguel
by Sayif (IRE) out of Glen Molly (IRE) (Danetime)
37 runs · 12 courses · from Jun 2016
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 Aug 2021 — 1,910 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2021 · 15th of 15 5 wins · Chantilly (FR) & Deauville (FR) New yard Headgear returns LTO
KTB Profile

If I Say So (GB) is 5 from 37. Hasn't won since Feb 2018.

Based on 37 archived runs · updated 4 Nov 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 71B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Newmarket, 5 Aug 2016 Official rating 63 at the last run, 5 Aug 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 5 figures · best 71B · median 58
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Standard (AW)258A58—
Good to Firm1———
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
6f – 7f571B58—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 5 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 829 runs since Mar 2016 (57 horses).

Strongest on standard (aw) going: 12.7% from 299. Weakest on good to soft going: 5.9% from 101.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm400%−9.7—
Good to Firm144139%−0.70 from 2
Good162159.3%−0.40 from 4
Good to Soft10165.9%−3.8—
Soft9355.4%−4.31 from 6
Heavy26311.5%+1.80 from 5
Standard (AW)2993812.7%+34 from 20
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f6046.7%−31 from 2
6f – 7f4615411.7%+24 from 24
1m – 1m1f145117.6%−2.10 from 9
1m2f – 1m4f6746%−3.7—
1m5f – 2m5923.4%−6.3—
2m1f – 2m4f27414.8%+5.10 from 2
2m5f – 3m9111.1%+1.4—
Over 3m100%−9.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Mar 2016 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Glen Molly (IRE) (Danetime)

9 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Cuppacoco (GB) (4 wins).

The wins came over 5f–1m; the highest grade won is Class 6 (Cuppacoco (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Cuppacoco (GB)4845f–6fClass 6
Sea Chariot (GB)1337f–1m—
Sussudio (GB)100——
Naughty Nadine (GB)120——
Tranquil Glen (GB)60——
Dream Of Keda (GB)90——
Bonny Miss Molly (GB)40——
The Roof Hub (GB)30——
Hyzenthlay Rah (GB)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 20 4 20% +6.60
Soft 6 1 17% −0.50
Heavy 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 6 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Chantilly (FR) 11 3 27% +12.30
Deauville (FR) 9 2 22% −0.20
Maisons-Laffitte (FR) 7 0 0% −7.00
Auteuil (FR) 2 0 0% −2.00
Le Croise-Laroche (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Saint-Cloud (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Clairefontaine (FR) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 24 4 17% +2.60
1m – 1m1f 9 0 0% −9.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
Under 6f 2 1 50% +3.50

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Ioritz Mendizabal 10 1 10% −8.00
Gregory Benoist 4 1 25% +4.70
Jerome Moutard 3 2 67% +9.30
Flavien Masse 2 0 0% −2.00
Adrien Moreau 2 0 0% −2.00
Eddy Hardouin 2 0 0% −2.00
Josephine Gordon 2 0 0% −2.00
Yohann Bourgois 1 0 0% −1.00
Pierre-Charles Boudot 1 0 0% −1.00
Jerome Claudic 1 0 0% −1.00
Pierre Bazire 1 1 100% +8.10
Guillaume Nugou 1 0 0% −1.00
Mlle Melinee Kuntz 1 0 0% −1.00
Gerald Mosse 1 0 0% −1.00
Sebastien Maillot 1 0 0% −1.00
Hugo Journiac 1 0 0% −1.00
Silvestre De Sousa 1 0 0% −1.00
Danny Brock 1 0 0% −1.00
Marc Monaghan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 19 3 16% +5.60
None 13 1 8% −7.50
Blinkers 4 1 25% −2.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2021 1 0 0% −1.00
2018 9 2 22% +8.80
2017 15 2 13% −2.70
2016 12 1 8% −10.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 35 5 14% −2.90
Hurdle 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2021 · 1 run
12 Aug 21+1174d Deauville (FR) Prix de la Foret du Rouvray (Handicap) (4yo+) (All-Weather Track) (Polytrack) 1m1½f · Standard · 15 ran 15/15 6 9-6 —— Yohann Bourgois 68/1
2018 · 9 runs
26 May 18+19d Auteuil (FR) Prix Gopal (Hurdle) (Claimer) (4yo) (Turf) 2m1½f · Heavy · 12 ran F/12 — 10-6 —— Flavien Masse 9/1
07 May 18+20d Auteuil (FR) Prix Fauche Le Pre (Hurdle) (Claimer) (4yo) (Turf) 2m1½f · Very Soft · 14 ran 6/14 shd 10-4 —— Flavien Masse 18/1
17 Apr 18+28d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix du Clos de Chalais (Handicap) (4yo+) (Turf) 6f · Heavy · 17 ran 15/17 6 9-4 —— Pierre-Charles Boudot 28/1
20 Mar 18+18d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Poteau Neuf (Claimer) (4yo) (Polytrack) 1m · Standard · 10 ran 3/10 3 9-6 —— Gregory Benoist 68/10
02 Mar 18+7d Deauville (FR) Prix de Lessard le Chene (Claimer) (4yo) (Polytrack) 7½f · Standard · 11 ran 8/11 ¾ 8-11 —— Gregory Benoist 69/10
23 Feb 18+7d Chantilly (FR) Prix de l'Ile Molton (Claimer) (4yo) (Polytrack) 1m · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 3 9-2 —— Jerome Claudic 5/2F
16 Feb 18+15d Chantilly (FR) Prix des Brulis (Handicap) (4yo) (Polytrack) 6½f · Standard · 16 ran 1/16 9-1 —— Gregory Benoist 77/10
01 Feb 18+28d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Carrefour Laversin (Claimer) (4yo) (Polytrack) 7f · Standard · 15 ran 1/15 9-1 —— Pierre Bazire 81/10
04 Jan 18+40d Deauville (FR) Prix de Ferriere-au-Doyen (Handicap) (4yo) (Polytrack) 6½f · Standard · 15 ran 3/15 ½ 9-4 —— Gregory Benoist 11/1
2017 · 15 runs
25 Nov 17+37d Le Croise-Laroche (FR) Prix de la Piscine de Roubaix (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 5½f · Heavy · 10 ran DSQ/10 1½ 8-13 —— Guillaume Nugou 47/1
19 Oct 17+8d Deauville (FR) Prix du Port de Dieppe (Handicap) (3yo) (Polytrack) 7½f · Standard · 14 ran 13/14 1¾ 9-2 —— Jerome Moutard 33/1
11 Oct 17+21d Chantilly (FR) Prix de l'Allee du Mail (Claimer) (3yo) (Lady Riders) (Polytrack) 1m · Standard · 15 ran 6/15 hd 9-1 —— Mlle Melinee Kuntz 25/1
20 Sep 17+38d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Bethemont (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Heavy · 9 ran 9/9 15 9-3 —— Adrien Moreau 13/1
13 Aug 17+20d Deauville (FR) Prix des Hautes Mottes (Handicap) (3yo) (Polytrack) 6½f · Fast · 13 ran 1/13 9-0 —— Jerome Moutard 58/10
24 Jul 17+12d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Cerfouillet (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 5½f · Soft · 12 ran 1/12 8-9 —— Jerome Moutard 9/2
12 Jul 17+11d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Limay (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Soft · 13 ran 10/13 ½ 9-1 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 78/10
01 Jul 17+15d Deauville (FR) Prix du Cidre (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Soft · 11 ran 4/11 1¼ 8-11 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 76/10
16 Jun 17+6d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de la Place Charlemagne (Handicap) (3yo) (Straight) (Turf) 1m · Good · 16 ran 5/16 3½ 9-0 —— Eddy Hardouin 78/10
10 Jun 17+7d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix du Verbois (Handicap) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Good · 17 ran 3/17 ½ 8-11 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 41/5
03 Jun 17+5d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix Soleil (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Soft · 8 ran 4/8 2 8-11 —— Eddy Hardouin 102/10
29 May 17+19d Maisons-Laffitte (FR) Prix de Mareil-Marly (Claimer) (3yo) (Turf) 6f · Good · 16 ran 2/16 hd 9-5 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 179/10
10 May 17+10d Chantilly (FR) Prix Chemin du Roi (Claimer) (3yo) (Polytrack) 7f · Standard · 12 ran 2/12 1¼ 8-13 —— Gerald Mosse 19/1
30 Apr 17+27d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Bois des Bouleaux (Claimer) (3yo) (Polytrack) 6½f · Standard · 15 ran 7/15 hd 9-1 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 129/10
03 Apr 17+129d Chantilly (FR) Prix du Bois d'Orival (Claimer) (Colts & Geldings) (Polytrack) 1m · Standard · 12 ran 4/12 ¾ 8-11 —— Adrien Moreau 163/10
2016 · 12 runs
25 Nov 16+27d Saint-Cloud (FR) Prix de la Fontaine (Handicap) (2yo) (Turf) 1m · Heavy · 15 ran 11/15 ¾ 9-0 —— Sebastien Maillot 10/1
29 Oct 16+12d Chantilly (FR) Prix de la Montignette (Claimer) (2yo) (Polytrack) 1m1f · Standard · 8 ran 2/8 ½ 8-11 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 17/5
17 Oct 16+5d Deauville (FR) Prix des Glaieuls (Claimer) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Polytrack) 6½f · Standard · 6 ran 1/6 9-1 —— Ioritz Mendizabal EvensF
12 Oct 16+44d Chantilly (FR) Prix de l'Allee Camelia (Claimer) (2yo Colts & Geldings) (Polytrack) 7f · Standard · 7 ran 2/7 3½ 9-1 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 39/10
29 Aug 16+12d Deauville (FR) Prix de Valseme (Claimer) (2yo) (Young Jockeys & Apprentices) (Polytrack) 7½f · Standard · 12 ran 5/12 hd 9-1 —— Hugo Journiac 9/5F
17 Aug 16+8d Clairefontaine (FR) Prix Tunisie Telecom (Prix North Jet) (Conditions) (2yo) (Turf) 1m · Good To Firm · 7 ran 2/7 1¾ 8-9 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 76/10
09 Aug 16+4d Deauville (FR) Prix du Mont Canisy (Claimer) (2yo) (Polytrack) 7½f · Standard · 10 ran 2/10 hd 8-11 —— Ioritz Mendizabal 7/1
05 Aug 16+23d Newmarket Tamdown Selling Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 2/6 ¾ 8-13 6371B Silvestre De Sousa 7/1
13 Jul 16+8d Sandown Buy And Sell At RoRSourceAHorse.org.uk Maiden Auction Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good · 16 ran 16/16 35 8-11 —43C Danny Brock 20/1
05 Jul 16+17d Wolverhampton (AW) Visit attheraces.com Maiden Auction Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 7 ran 4/7 1¼ 9-0 —58A Josephine Gordon 8/1
18 Jun 16+16d Lingfield (AW) Ken & Moyra's 50th Golden Wedding Anniversary Maiden Auction Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 5/11 1¾ 8-9 —58A Marc Monaghan 50/1
02 Jun 16 Lingfield John & Joan Goodall Memorial Novice Median Auction Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Soft · 14 ran 11/14 1 8-11 —47A Josephine Gordon 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has If I Say So won?
If I Say So (GB) won 5 of 37 archived starts between 2016 and 2021, a strike rate of 13.5%. Placed 15 times in total (40.5% of starts).
Who trained If I Say So?
If I Say So (GB) was trained by Hugo Merienne on the most recent run on record, at Deauville (FR) on 12 August 2021.
Who is If I Say So's sire?
If I Say So (GB) is by Sayif (IRE) out of Glen Molly (IRE), whose sire is Danetime.
What going does If I Say So prefer?
If I Say So (GB) has the best record on standard (aw) going: 4 wins from 20 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is If I Say So's official rating?
If I Say So (GB)'s highest official rating on record is 63.
What is If I Say So's sire's record?
Sayif (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.7% of 829 runs since Mar 2016 (57 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on standard (aw) going: 12.7% from 299. Weakest on good to soft going: 5.9% from 101.
Who are If I Say So's siblings?
Out of Glen Molly (IRE), If I Say So (GB) has 9 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Cuppacoco (GB) (4). Highest grade won: Class 6 (Cuppacoco (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from June 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.