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Horse profile

Il Va De Soi (FR)

8yo gelding · Trainer Donald McCain · Owner Thomas Fearn
by Gris De Gris (IRE) out of Vara Des Champs (FR) (Robin Des Champs)
23 runs · 15 courses · from Feb 2023
As at 4 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
4 wins · Warwick, Uttoxeter & Chepstow New yard Last run 26 Jun 2026 · 2nd of 4 Last raced off OR 114
KTB Profile

Il Va De Soi is 4 from 23 with all wins at Class 4 level. He gained two of those wins at Warwick in May 2026 over 2m5f – 3m on good ground and two more at Uttoxeter and Chepstow in Apr 2024 over 2m1f – 2m4f on soft ground. The gelding, usually prominent, finished 2 of 4 in a Class 3 handicap at Bangor-on-Dee in Jun 2026. His last run, at Bangor-on-Dee in Jun 2026, was his first for Donald McCain.

Based on 23 archived runs · run-style from 14 commented runs since Nov 2024 · updated 4 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance All wins at Class 4 OR ↓ 8lb off peak
Official rating114↓ 8lb off peak
114 103–122

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 143 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Warwick, 20 May 2026

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 20 figures · best 151B · median 106
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft7122B872 runs · 110 / 98
Good6151B1165 runs · 143 / 106
Soft6121A109.51 run · —
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f11121A1063 runs · 106 / 99
2m5f – 3m5151B1264 runs · 143 / 118
1m5f – 2m4122B74.51 run · —

Of 23 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (3).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 20 figures from 23 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 131A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Warwick, 20 May 2026 Official rating 114 at the last run, 26 Jun 2026

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 20 figures · best 133A · median 118
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
Good to Soft7133A1112 runs · 106 / 101
Good6133A1255 runs · 131 / 120
Soft6132B118.51 run · —
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 4 Nov 2025
2m1f – 2m4f11133A1203 runs · 120 / 116
2m5f – 3m5133A1304 runs · 131 / 118
1m5f – 2m4130A113.51 run · —

Of 23 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 20 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style from 14 analysed runs since Nov 2024

  • Led 4 (29%) · 2 wins
  • Prominent 4 (29%) · 0 wins
  • Mid-division 4 (29%) · 0 wins
  • Held up 2 (14%) · 0 wins

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Gris De Gris (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.2% of 1,071 runs since Apr 2014 (142 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Good to Firm3133.3%+23.1—
Good2152310.7%+0.52 from 6
Good to Soft185147.6%−2.60 from 9
Soft4124410.7%+0.52 from 6
Heavy2082512%+1.80 from 2
Standard (AW)4824.2%−6—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−10.2—
6f – 7f1000%−10.2—
1m – 1m1f59610.2%0—
1m2f – 1m4f8144.9%−5.3—
1m5f – 2m2532811.1%+0.90 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f496499.9%−0.32 from 12
2m5f – 3m129129.3%−0.92 from 7
Over 3m421023.8%+13.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Apr 2014 · as at 4 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Vara Des Champs (FR) (Robin Des Champs)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 9 0 0% −9.00
Good 6 2 33% +8.00
Soft 6 2 33% −0.90
Heavy 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 13 4 31% +6.10
Class 3 8 0 0% −8.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Warwick 3 2 67% +11.00
Bangor-on-Dee 2 0 0% −2.00
Taunton 2 0 0% −2.00
Ascot 2 0 0% −2.00
Kempton 2 0 0% −2.00
Uttoxeter 2 1 50% +1.00
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Huntingdon 1 0 0% −1.00
Fontwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheltenham 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 1 100% +1.10
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 12 2 17% −6.90
2m5f – 3m 7 2 29% +7.00
1m5f – 2m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Paul O'Brien 9 2 22% +5.00
Megan Fox 6 0 0% −6.00
Alice Stevens 6 2 33% −0.90
Theo Gillard 1 0 0% −1.00
Brendan Powell 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Cheekpieces 15 4 27% +4.10
None 8 0 0% −8.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2026 9 2 22% +5.00
2025 5 0 0% −5.00
2024 4 2 50% +1.10
2023 5 0 0% −5.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 18 4 22% +1.10
Chase 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2026 · 9 runs
26 Jun 26+37d Bangor-on-Dee Bangor-On-Dee Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m3½f · Good · 4 ran Went straight to front - pressed for effort approaching two out - overtaken on the run for home and unable to reel in winner 2/4 1 11-6 114106C120C Theo Gillard 5/2
20 May 26+11d Warwick Logic Defying Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5f · Good · 7 ran Set the pace from the off - asked for effort and a length clear 2 out then a touch untidy at the last - responded well to win 1/7 11-2 108143B131A Paul O'Brien 3/1F
09 May 26+35d Warwick Lewis Badges 1832 Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5f · Good · 7 ran Set the pace from the off - driven out approaching two out and edged clear - kept finding more to the line for a comfortable win 1/7 11-7 103126B130B Paul O'Brien 9/1
04 Apr 26+11d Huntingdon Best Odds Guaranteed At Betano Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m · Good · 8 ran Settled at back of field - pushed along and dropped away approaching 3 out - well beaten at the finish 8/8 5½ 11-1 10857C102C Megan Fox 16/1
24 Mar 26+16d Taunton Racehorse Ownership From 25 At racingclub.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3f · Good · 7 ran Handy with the pace early - hit the 6th and lost fluency - driven from three out but couldn't land a blow - finished well held in 5th 5/7 2 10-13 11097B116A Megan Fox 33/1
08 Mar 26+14d Warwick Royal Pug Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran Settled midpack early - dropped towards the back before the 7th - far off the pace approaching 2 out - eventually finished 7th 7/9 9½ 11-0 11486A96A Megan Fox 33/1
22 Feb 26+8d Fontwell Barry Dennis Trophy Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5½f · Heavy · 4 ran Shared front spot early - lost place and dropped away fast approaching two out - eased and stopped soon after PU/4 — 11-3 117—— Megan Fox 4/1
14 Feb 26+12d Ascot Betfair Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m7½f · Good To Soft · 18 ran Settled in the pack early - pushed along without gaining ground before 2 out - dropped away to finish 12th 12/18 5½ 11-1 119110B106A Megan Fox 50/1
02 Feb 26+33d Kempton CopyBet Daily Profit Boost Novices' Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 4 · 3m · Good To Soft · 10 ran Held up towards the back - urged forward in 10th - lost touch four out before being pulled up PU/10 — 11-10 119—— Alice Stevens 16/1
2025 · 5 runs
31 Dec 25+49d Uttoxeter QuinnBet Daily Free Bet Novices' Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m4f · Good To Soft · 10 ran Settled second early - hit front 5th before losing command 7th - dropping away when fell 2 out F/10 — 11-13 119—— Paul O'Brien 10/1
12 Nov 25+215d Bangor-on-Dee Paul Ferguson Jumpers To Follow Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 2m4½f · Soft · 9 ran Settled in the pack - hit trouble three out - pushed along into the turn - moved up to third near the last but well held 3/9 20 11-5 12199A110B Paul O'Brien 6/1
11 Apr 25+58d Ayr Jardine Utilities Race To Repair 'Hands & Heels' Handicap Hurdle (Conditionals/Amateurs) Class 4 · 2m4½f · Good To Soft · 13 ran Settled in the pack - stayed on from three out - driven approaching final furlong to claim fourth on the run to the line 4/13 9 11-13 12295B133A Megan Fox 9/1
12 Feb 25+19d Wetherby Wetherby Racecourse & Conference Centre Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m3½f · Soft · 11 ran Wide on the outer early - lost ground into the pack by the 6th and faded - eventually well held in 8th 8/11 4½ 11-4 122106C106C Alice Stevens 3/1J
24 Jan 25+70d Sandown Walking With The Wounded Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m4f · Soft · 7 ran Handy early on - moved ahead approaching 2 out then pressed for effort - lost front spot and faded under pressure late to finish second beaten 10 lengths 2/7 10 11-7 122113B132B Brendan Powell 5/1
2024 · 4 runs
15 Nov 24+205d Cheltenham Lycetts Insurance Brokers Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 2m5f · Good · 16 ran Sat behind front pack early - moved into second three out then dropped back after the following fence - settled among the front group again - faded on the run to the line finishing fifth 5/16 2¼ 11-11 122151B133A Alice Stevens 25/1
24 Apr 24+23d Uttoxeter Carlsberg Marston's Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4f · Soft · 8 ran 1/8 11-2 114116A131A Alice Stevens 2/1
01 Apr 24+31d Chepstow Visit Irish P2P Sales With ITM Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m3½f · Soft · 11 ran 1/11 11-0 106121A121A Alice Stevens 11/10F
01 Mar 24+77d Newbury Howden Supporting West Berkshire Mencap Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 2m4½f · Heavy · 11 ran 2/11 8½ 11-1 104110B129A Alice Stevens 6/1
2023 · 5 runs
15 Dec 23+13d Doncaster Yates Drywall Ltd Novices' Handicap Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 4 · 2m3½f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 7/12 1¾ 11-8 10678C105C Paul O'Brien 5/2J
02 Dec 23+28d Newbury Coral Committed To Safer Gambling Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 3 · 2m4½f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 4/12 16 11-0 —87C114A Paul O'Brien 20/1
04 Nov 23+205d Ascot GL Events Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 3 · 1m7½f · Soft · 12 ran 4/12 11 11-0 —74A116A Paul O'Brien 18/1
13 Apr 23+62d Taunton Evening Meeting Thursday 27th April Open Maiden NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 2m½f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 4/13 1 11-4 —122B130A Paul O'Brien 5/1
10 Feb 23 Kempton Racing TV Open Maiden NH Flat Race (GBB Race) Class 5 · 2m · Good To Soft · 8 ran 2/8 hd 11-7 —75A111A Paul O'Brien 5/2J

Quick answers

How many races has Il Va De Soi won?
Il Va De Soi (FR) won 4 of 23 archived starts between 2023 and 2026, a strike rate of 17.4%. Placed 8 times in total (34.8% of starts).
Who trains Il Va De Soi?
Il Va De Soi (FR) is trained by Donald McCain, who saddled the horse on its most recent run on 26 June 2026.
Who is Il Va De Soi's sire?
Il Va De Soi (FR) is by Gris De Gris (IRE) out of Vara Des Champs (FR), whose sire is Robin Des Champs.
What going does Il Va De Soi prefer?
Il Va De Soi (FR) has the best record on good going: 2 wins from 6 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Il Va De Soi's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 114, from the run on 26 June 2026. The highest on record is 122.
What is Il Va De Soi's sire's record?
Gris De Gris (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.2% of 1,071 runs since Apr 2014 (142 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from February 2023. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.