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Lie Forrit (IRE)

12yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2016) · Last trainer Lucinda Russell · Last owner Jw Mcneill C Mcneill Ms L Gillies
by Subtle Power (IRE) out of Ben Roseler (IRE) (Beneficial)
31 runs · 12 courses · from Nov 2007
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Jan 2016 — 3,951 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2016 · 7th of 15 12 wins · 9 courses Last raced off OR 145
KTB Profile

Lie Forrit (IRE) is 12 from 31, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the Jardine Lloyd Thompson Handicap Hurdle at Cheltenham (Nov 2009). Hasn't won since Feb 2015. Last raced off 145, 10lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 31 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 10lb off peak
Official rating145↓ 10lb off peak
145 115–155

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 146A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Haydock, 14 Feb 2015 Official rating 145 at the last run, 2 Jan 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 26 figures · best 151A · median 123.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Soft12146A126—
Good6145A118—
Heavy5136B118—
Good to Soft3151A141—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m12151A127—
Over 3m8146A131—
1m5f – 2m4124A112.5—
2m1f – 2m4f2122A118—

Of 31 runs looked at, 5 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (5).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 26 figures from 31 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Subtle Power (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10% of 748 runs since Jan 2008 (65 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 13.4% from 127. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 13.9% from 115. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 6.5% from 153.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm2150%+40—
Good to Firm3625.6%−4.4—
Good225229.8%−0.23 from 8
Good to Soft1211411.6%+1.62 from 4
Soft227198.4%−1.65 from 14
Heavy1271713.4%+3.42 from 5
Standard (AW)1000%−10—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f8112.5%+2.5—
1m5f – 2m153106.5%−3.52 from 4
2m1f – 2m4f229219.2%−0.81 from 2
2m5f – 3m2432711.1%+1.14 from 15
Over 3m1151613.9%+3.95 from 10

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Ben Roseler (IRE) (Beneficial)

7 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them Oscar Rose (IRE) (7 wins).

The wins came over 1m7½f–2m5f; the highest grade won is Listed (Oscar Rose (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Oscar Rose (IRE)3472m–2m5fListed
Cave Court (IRE)2962m–2m4fClass 5
Janal (IRE)4041m7½f–2m4fClass 5
Nobel Leader (IRE)2431m7½f–2m4½fClass 4
What A Dream (GB)4432m4½fClass 4
Go Forrit (IRE)50——
Cloch Fada (GB)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 14 5 36% +8.80
Good 8 3 38% +101.88
Heavy 5 2 40% +5.88
Good to Soft 4 2 50% +7.25

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 10 5 50% +7.89
Class 1 8 2 25% +4.75
Class 3 5 1 20% +2.50
Class 4 5 2 40% +2.67
Class 6 3 2 67% +106.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Ayr 7 2 29% +0.67
Kelso 7 3 43% +4.26
Aintree 3 1 33% −0.12
Haydock 3 1 33% +6.00
Cheltenham 3 1 33% +0.75
Carlisle 2 1 50% +99.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00
Wetherby 1 1 100% +6.50
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 1 100% +2.75
Hexham 1 1 100% +7.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 15 4 27% +4.63
Over 3m 10 5 50% +14.51
1m5f – 2m 4 2 50% +105.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 1 50% −0.33

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Campbell Gillies 15 7 47% +111.55
Peter Buchanan 11 5 45% +17.26
Alexander Voy 2 0 0% −2.00
Craig Nichol 1 0 0% −1.00
Brian Harding 1 0 0% −1.00
James Reveley 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 1 0 0% −1.00
2015 4 2 50% +7.88
2014 4 2 50% +4.88
2013 3 1 33% +4.50
2012 5 0 0% −5.00
2011 2 1 50% +0.38
2010 2 0 0% −2.00
2009 5 4 80% +10.17
2008 4 1 25% +4.00
2007 1 1 100% +100.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 15 4 27% +2.14
Hurdle 12 6 50% +16.67
NH Flat 4 2 50% +105.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2016 · 1 run
02 Jan 16+69d Sandown 32RedSport.com Veterans' Handicap Chase Final (Final Of The 2015 Veterans' Chase Series) Class 2 · 24f · Heavy · 15 ran 7/15 16 11-9 145118C Peter Buchanan 14/1
2015 · 4 runs
25 Oct 15+190d Aintree Simon And Louise's Silver Anniversary Veterans' Handicap Chase (Leg 7 of The Veterans' Chase Series) Class 2 · 25f · Good · 8 ran PU/8 — 11-12 148— Peter Buchanan 9/2
18 Apr 15+63d Ayr Coral Scottish Grand National Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 32f · Good · 29 ran 10/29 ½ 10-12 148115C Peter Buchanan 14/1
14 Feb 15+34d Haydock Betfred Grand National Trial (Grade 3 Handicap Chase) Class 1 · 28.5f · Soft · 12 ran 1/12 11-6 139146A Peter Buchanan 8/1
11 Jan 15+43d Kelso Royal Caledonian Hunt Veterans' Handicap Chase (qualifier) Class 2 · 26f · Heavy · 8 ran 1/8 10-10 132136B Peter Buchanan 15/8F
2014 · 4 runs
29 Nov 14+35d Newcastle At The Races Rehearsal Chase (Listed Handicap) Class 1 · 23.5f · Soft · 9 ran 2/9 7 10-13 132121B Peter Buchanan 8/1
25 Oct 14+196d Aintree Betfred Mobile Veterans' Handicap Chase Class 2 · 25f · Good · 5 ran 1/5 10-8 128135B Peter Buchanan 15/8F
12 Apr 14+21d Ayr Coral Scottish Grand National Handicap Chase (Grade 3) Class 1 · 32f · Good To Soft · 29 ran PU/29 — 9-9 135— Craig Nichol 14/1
22 Mar 14+97d Kelso Bentley Homes Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 26f · Good · 9 ran 1/9 11-12 140145A Peter Buchanan 5/1
2013 · 3 runs
15 Dec 13+22d Carlisle Pertemps Network Handicap Hurdle (series Qualifier) Class 2 · 25f · Soft · 9 ran 6/9 11 11-8 143123C Peter Buchanan 4/1
23 Nov 13+38d Haydock Betfair Cash Out 'Fixed Brush' Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3) Class 1 · 23f · Soft · 17 ran 3/17 1½ 11-2 138143A Peter Buchanan 10/1
16 Oct 13+291d Wetherby Don't Miss The Bet365 Charlie Hall Meeting Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 21.5f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-10 131141A Peter Buchanan 13/2
2012 · 5 runs
29 Dec 12+20d Doncaster Blue Square Bet Handicap Chase Class 3 · 24f · Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-4 125— Brian Harding 7/1
09 Dec 12+15d Kelso Persimmon Homes Champion Chase (Handicap Chase) Class 2 · 23.5f · Soft · 6 ran 2/6 2¼ 10-5 124129B James Reveley 9/4
24 Nov 12+35d Haydock Better Prices On Betfair Mobile Handicap Chase Class 2 · 23f · Soft · 11 ran 7/11 19 11-0 130101C Alexander Voy 5/1
20 Oct 12+257d Kelso Edf-er Fallago Rig Handicap Chase Class 3 · 26f · Heavy · 9 ran 6/9 22 11-8 134111C Alexander Voy 9/4F
06 Feb 12+39d Ayr Best Odds At Betvictor.com Novices' Chase Class 4 · 24.5f · Soft · 3 ran 2/3 1¼ 11-7 139131C Campbell Gillies EvensF
2011 · 2 runs
29 Dec 11+25d Kelso Ashleybank Investments Reg & Betty Tweedie Novices' Chase Class 4 · 22.5f · Soft · 3 ran 2/3 2 11-9 123125C Campbell Gillies 5/6F
04 Dec 11+626d Kelso John Smith's Paris Pike Novices' Chase Class 2 · 22.5f · Soft · 7 ran 1/7 11-1 123120B Campbell Gillies 11/8F
2010 · 2 runs
18 Mar 10+47d Cheltenham Ladbrokes World Hurdle (Grade 1) Class 1 · 24f · Good · 14 ran 9/14 12 11-10 155121C Campbell Gillies 40/1
30 Jan 10+64d Cheltenham Betfair Cleeve Hurdle (Grade 2) Class 1 · 24f · Soft · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-4 155— Campbell Gillies 11/4F
2009 · 5 runs
27 Nov 09+13d Newbury Pertemps Handicap Hurdle (qualifier) Class 2 · 24.5f · Good To Soft · 18 ran 1/18 11-8 138151A Campbell Gillies 11/4F
14 Nov 09+20d Cheltenham Jardine Lloyd Thompson Handicap Hurdle () Class 1 · 25.5f · Soft · 12 ran 1/12 9-12 132127A Campbell Gillies 11/4F
25 Oct 09+260d Aintree Liverpool Volkswagen Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 24.5f · Good · 11 ran UR/11 — 11-4 123— Campbell Gillies 9/2F
07 Feb 09+28d Ayr Victor Chandler Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 21.5f · Soft · 14 ran 1/14 11-7 115133A Campbell Gillies 5/1
10 Jan 09+47d Ayr Blue Square Novices' Hurdle (Div 2) Class 4 · 20f · Soft · 11 ran 1/11 11-1 115114A Campbell Gillies 4/6F
2008 · 4 runs
24 Nov 08+17d Ayr BEN Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 2/11 nk 10-7 123122A Campbell Gillies 14/1
07 Nov 08+202d Hexham Rookhope Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Heavy · 12 ran 1/12 11-2 —124A Campbell Gillies 7/1
19 Apr 08+99d Ayr Ashleybank Investments Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 3 · 16f · Good · 15 ran 11/15 4 10-11 —84C Campbell Gillies 25/1
11 Jan 08+68d Kelso SIS 'Junior' Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 16f · Heavy · 15 ran 2/15 4 10-12 —118A Campbell Gillies 12/1
2007 · 1 run
04 Nov 07 Carlisle Gary Paul E B F "Junior" Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class 6 · 14f · Good · 12 ran 1/12 10-2 —107C Campbell Gillies 100/1

Quick answers

How many races has Lie Forrit won?
Lie Forrit (IRE) won 12 of 31 archived starts between 2007 and 2016, a strike rate of 38.7%. Placed 17 times in total (54.8% of starts).
Who trained Lie Forrit?
Lie Forrit (IRE) was trained by Lucinda Russell on the most recent run on record, at Sandown on 2 January 2016.
Who is Lie Forrit's sire?
Lie Forrit (IRE) is by Subtle Power (IRE) out of Ben Roseler (IRE), whose sire is Beneficial.
What going does Lie Forrit prefer?
Lie Forrit (IRE) has the best record on good to soft going: 2 wins from 4 starts (50%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Lie Forrit's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 145, from the run on 2 January 2016. The highest on record is 155.
What is Lie Forrit's sire's record?
Subtle Power (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10% of 748 runs since Jan 2008 (65 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 13.4% from 127. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 13.9% from 115. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 6.5% from 153.
Who are Lie Forrit's siblings?
Out of Ben Roseler (IRE), Lie Forrit (IRE) has 7 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: Oscar Rose (IRE) (7). Highest grade won: Listed (Oscar Rose (IRE)). The wins came over 1m7½f–2m5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.