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Horse profile

Missing The Point (IRE)

7yo gelding (at last run, May 2008) · Last trainer Michael Cullen · Last owner Mrs K A Cullen
by Needle Gun (IRE) out of Flapping Freda (IRE) (Carlingford Castle)
7 runs · 5 courses · from Nov 2007
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 May 2008 — 6,736 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2008 Last raced off OR 87
KTB Profile

Missing The Point (IRE) is yet to win from 7 starts.

Based on 7 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
Official rating87↓ 3lb off peak
87 84–90

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Sep 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 98C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Navan, 26 Jan 2008 Official rating 87 at the last run, 5 May 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 6 figures · best 112C · median 95.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Heavy4112C97—
Soft295C93—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m296A92.5—
2m5f – 3m298C94.5—
2m1f – 2m4f2112C103.5—

Of 7 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 7 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Needle Gun (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 5% of 1,228 runs since Jan 2008 (139 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1100%−5—
Good to Firm14964%−1—
Good407256.1%+1.10 from 1
Good to Soft18863.2%−1.8—
Soft278134.7%−0.30 from 2
Heavy190126.3%+1.30 from 4
Standard (AW)500%−5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m2f – 1m4f800%−5—
1m5f – 2m402194.7%−0.30 from 2
2m1f – 2m4f442245.4%+0.40 from 2
2m5f – 3m321185.6%+0.60 from 3
Over 3m5511.8%−3.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Flapping Freda (IRE) (Carlingford Castle)

2 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Ammunition (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 2m4f–3m6½f; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Ammunition (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Ammunition (IRE)3642m4f–3m6½fClass 3
Grumpy Bee (IRE)60——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Limerick 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles 2 0 0% −2.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
1m5f – 2m 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Mr J P McKeown 1 0 0% −1.00
Davy Russell 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Flanagan 1 0 0% −1.00
Phillip Enright 1 0 0% −1.00
Niall P Madden 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr J J Codd 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr M M O'Connor 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 5 0 0% −5.00
2007 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 5 0 0% −5.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
05 May 08+48d Limerick Nutec (QR) Handicap Hurdle (81-102) 24f · Good · 18 ran PU/18 — 11-3 87— Mr J P McKeown 25/1
18 Mar 08+33d Naas Sponsor A Race At Naas Handicap Hurdle (77-90) 16f · Soft To Heavy · 22 ran 20/22 9 11-12 9089C Davy Russell 14/1
14 Feb 08+19d Thurles Cashel Maiden Hurdle 22f · Soft · 18 ran 6/18 7 10-13 8491C Sean Flanagan 50/1
26 Jan 08+14d Navan Design Maiden Hurdle 23f · Heavy · 29 ran 15/29 2 11-7 8498C Phillip Enright 50/1
12 Jan 08+14d Punchestown I.N.H. Stallion Owners EBF Maiden Hurdle (Div 1) 16f · Heavy · 22 ran 7/22 2 11-12 8496A Niall P Madden 25/1
29 Dec 07+37d Limerick Guinness Leading Trainer Inh Flat Race 18f · Heavy · 17 ran 5/17 4 12-0 —112C Mr J J Codd 16/1
22 Nov 07 Thurles Liscahill Inh Flat Race 18f · Yielding To Soft · 18 ran 6/18 9 11-7 —95C Mr M M O'Connor 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Missing The Point (IRE) won?
Missing The Point (IRE) has yet to win, from 7 archived starts between 2007 and 2008.
Who trained Missing The Point (IRE)?
Missing The Point (IRE) was trained by Michael Cullen on the most recent run on record, at Limerick on 5 May 2008.
Who is Missing The Point (IRE)'s sire?
Missing The Point (IRE) is by Needle Gun (IRE) out of Flapping Freda (IRE), whose sire is Carlingford Castle.
What is Missing The Point (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 87, from the run on 5 May 2008. The highest on record is 90.
What is Missing The Point (IRE)'s sire's record?
Needle Gun (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 5% of 1,228 runs since Jan 2008 (139 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Missing The Point (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Flapping Freda (IRE), Missing The Point (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Ammunition (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Ammunition (IRE)). The wins came over 2m4f–3m6½f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2007. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.