Horse profile
Mr Optimistic (GB)
by Kyllachy (GB) out of Noble Desert (FR) (Green Desert)
35 runs · 16 courses · from Apr 2010
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 2 Apr 2013 — 4,950 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Apr 2013 · 9th of 11
6 wins · 4 courses
Last raced off OR 58
KTB Profile
Mr Optimistic (GB) is 6 from 35. Hasn't won since Feb 2013. Last raced off 58, 27lb below the career-high mark.
Based on 35 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
OR ↓ 27lb off peak
- 6–35Wins / Runs
- 17.1%Strike rate
- 8 (22.9%)Placed
- +0.25£1 level staken=35 at SP
- 1.66Fair A/E n=35 · 1.42 incl. margin
- 85Highest OR
- 31dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating58↓ 27lb off peak
58
48–85
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Kyllachy (GB)
Progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 13,847 runs since Jan 2008 (800 horses).
Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.8% from 468.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 188 | 16 | 8.5% | −1.4 | — |
| Good to Firm | 2,756 | 289 | 10.5% | +0.6 | 1 from 6 |
| Good | 2,716 | 230 | 8.5% | −1.4 | 0 from 7 |
| Good to Soft | 1,413 | 121 | 8.6% | −1.3 | 1 from 3 |
| Soft | 1,306 | 127 | 9.7% | −0.2 | 0 from 2 |
| Heavy | 368 | 44 | 12% | +2.1 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 5,100 | 545 | 10.7% | +0.8 | 4 from 17 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 3,349 | 381 | 11.4% | +1.5 | 3 from 17 |
| 6f – 7f | 6,993 | 705 | 10.1% | +0.2 | 3 from 18 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,945 | 171 | 8.8% | −1.1 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 836 | 74 | 8.9% | −1 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 468 | 27 | 5.8% | −4.1 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 197 | 12 | 6.1% | −3.8 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 50 | 2 | 4% | −5.9 | — |
| Over 3m | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Noble Desert (FR) (Green Desert)
6 siblings in the archive, 5 winners — best of them The Human League (GB) (3 wins).
The wins came over 5f–1m1f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (The Human League (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| The Human League (GB) | 19 | 3 | 6f–7f | Class 4 |
| Bahamian Desert (GB) | 12 | 3 | 1m–1m1f | Class 5 |
| Noble Act (GB) | 19 | 2 | 5f–5½f | Class 5 |
| Star of Rohm (GB) | 16 | 1 | 6f | Class 5 |
| Noble Dictator (GB) | 11 | 1 | 1m | Class 6 |
| Sakhra (GB) | 41 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Standard (AW) | 17 | 4 | 24% | +4.75 |
| Good | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Good to Firm | 6 | 1 | 17% | +3.00 |
| Good to Soft | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.50 |
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 12 | 2 | 17% | +1.50 |
| Class 6 | 9 | 1 | 11% | −6.50 |
| Class 5 | 9 | 2 | 22% | +4.75 |
| Class 7 | 2 | 1 | 50% | +3.50 |
| Class 2 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 8 | 2 | 25% | +5.75 |
| Kempton (AW) | 7 | 2 | 29% | +1.00 |
| Ayr | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.50 |
| Haydock | 2 | 1 | 50% | +7.00 |
| Ripon | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Newmarket | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| York | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Lingfield (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sandown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bath | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Catterick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Redcar | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Southwell (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Beverley | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pontefract | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 18 | 3 | 17% | −5.50 |
| Under 6f | 17 | 3 | 18% | +5.75 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lee Topliss | 10 | 2 | 20% | +3.50 |
| Kieran O'Neill | 5 | 1 | 20% | +0.50 |
| Ashley Morgan | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Barry McHugh | 4 | 2 | 50% | +9.75 |
| Paul Hanagan | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| David Probert | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sean Levey | 1 | 1 | 100% | +1.50 |
| Martin Lane | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Richard Kingscote | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| George Chaloner | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Duran Fentiman | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Liam Keniry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tony Hamilton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 22 | 4 | 18% | +5.25 |
| Hood + tongue tie | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Hood | 5 | 2 | 40% | +3.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2013 | 5 | 2 | 40% | +3.00 |
| 2012 | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| 2011 | 9 | 3 | 33% | +8.25 |
| 2010 | 9 | 1 | 11% | +1.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 02 Apr 13+27d | Kempton (AW) | Mascot Grand National 06.05.13 Handicap | 9/11 | shd | 9-0 | 58 | 58A | Kieran O'Neill | 12/1 |
| 06 Mar 13+13d | Kempton (AW) | Come Dine In The Panoramic Restaurant Handicap | 8/10 | ½ | 9-0 | 58 | 61A | Kieran O'Neill | 4/1 |
| 21 Feb 13+29d | Kempton (AW) | Get The BetVictor App Handicap (Div 2) | 1/9 | 9-6 | 54 | 75A | Sean Levey | 6/4F | |
| 23 Jan 13+14d | Kempton (AW) | Book For Racing Plus Chase Day Handicap | 1/7 | 9-4 | 48 | 87A | Kieran O'Neill | 9/2 | |
| 09 Jan 13+21d | Kempton (AW) | Free Entry Every Wednesday For Betdaq Members Handicap | 5/10 | shd | 9-6 | 49 | 60A | Kieran O'Neill | 12/1 |
| 19 Dec 12+33d | Lingfield (AW) | Follow AtTheRaces On Twitter Handicap (Div 2) | 8/11 | shd | 9-5 | 53 | 61A | David Probert | 8/1 |
| 16 Nov 12+15d | Wolverhampton (AW) | 32RedBet.com Handicap (Div 2) | 11/12 | 14 | 8-11 | 53 | 26C | Ashley Morgan | 8/1 |
| 01 Nov 12+19d | Kempton (AW) | 32 Free At 32Red.com Handicap | 11/12 | 1 | 9-6 | 55 | 55A | David Probert | 6/1 |
| 13 Oct 12+8d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Betfred Still Treble Odds On Lucky 15's Handicap | 6/13 | nk | 8-11 | 57 | 64A | Ashley Morgan | 28/1 |
| 05 Oct 12+16d | Wolverhampton (AW) | 32Red Handicap | 5/12 | ½ | 9-2 | 60 | 65A | Ashley Morgan | 12/1 |
| 19 Sep 12+14d | Sandown | Support The Racehorse Sanctuary Handicap | 10/10 | 2¼ | 8-9 | 63 | 47A | Kieran O'Neill | 66/1 |
| 05 Sep 12+62d | Bath | Geolight Handicap | 12/12 | 4 | 8-8 | 67 | 12C | Ashley Morgan | 33/1 |
| 05 Jul 12+27d | Haydock | TuffX Glass Handicap (Betfair Sprint Flat Series Qualifier) | 13/15 | 5 | 9-1 | 71 | 33A | Lee Topliss | 50/1 |
| 08 Jun 12+20d | Catterick | Pin Point Recruitment Handicap | 8/8 | 2 | 8-8 | 75 | 36A | Lee Topliss | 16/1 |
| 19 May 12+30d | Doncaster | Robinsonsofbawtry.com Handicap | 14/18 | 2¾ | 9-2 | 78 | 46A | Lee Topliss | 25/1 |
| 19 Apr 12+17d | Ripon | PPR Foundation Handicap (Div 2) | 9/14 | 1 | 8-13 | 80 | 74A | Lee Topliss | 16/1 |
| 02 Apr 12+199d | Redcar | Come Racing Again On Easter Monday Handicap | 11/15 | 1 | 9-7 | 81 | 67A | Lee Topliss | 9/2F |
| 16 Sep 11+34d | Ayr | M&Co Handicap | 14/22 | ¾ | 9-1 | 83 | 71A | Lee Topliss | 5/1F |
| 13 Aug 11+21d | Newmarket | Premier League Kick Off On Skybet Mobile Handicap | 11/17 | 1 | 8-1 | 84 | 73A | Martin Lane | 33/1 |
| 23 Jul 11+43d | Newmarket | Boylesports Mobile Handicap | 9/19 | nk | 8-5 | 85 | 80A | Richard Kingscote | 25/1 |
| 10 Jun 11+15d | York | Charles Clinkard Fine Footwear Anniversary Handicap | 15/16 | shd | 8-11 | 85 | 61A | Paul Hanagan | 7/1 |
| 26 May 11+13d | Ayr | Join Bluesq.com For 20 Of Free Bets Handicap | 1/8 | 9-2 | 80 | 95A | Lee Topliss | 7/2 | |
| 13 May 11+27d | York | Ralph Raper Memorial Handicap | 5/19 | nk | 9-7 | 80 | 99A | Paul Hanagan | 6/1F |
| 16 Apr 11+76d | Haydock | Aricabeau Racing Handicap | 1/13 | 8-9 | 77 | 87A | Lee Topliss | 8/1 | |
| 30 Jan 11+12d | Kempton (AW) | Book For Racing Post Chase Handicap | 2/5 | 1 | 9-2 | 77 | 69B | George Chaloner | 11/4 |
| 18 Jan 11+45d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Wolverhampton-racecourse.co.uk Handicap | 1/8 | 9-2 | 68 | 95A | Barry McHugh | 11/4 | |
| 04 Dec 10+7d | Southwell (AW) | toteexacta Your Better Value Forecast Nursery | 4/6 | nk | 8-12 | 68 | 69B | Barry McHugh | 11/4 |
| 27 Nov 10+15d | Wolverhampton (AW) | European Breeders' Fund Maiden Stakes | 1/10 | 9-3 | 62 | 90A | Barry McHugh | 9/1 | |
| 12 Nov 10+11d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Bet Multiples - Betdaq Nursery | 4/10 | ½ | 8-9 | 62 | 78A | Duran Fentiman | 12/1 |
| 01 Nov 10+23d | Wolverhampton (AW) | Bet Premier League Football - Betdaq Maiden Stakes (Div 1) | 3/13 | ¾ | 9-3 | 62 | 78A | Barry McHugh | 20/1 |
| 09 Oct 10+24d | Wolverhampton (AW) | betdaq.com Nursery | 8/11 | nk | 9-6 | 64 | 59A | Liam Keniry | 16/1 |
| 15 Sep 10+90d | Beverley | Watch Racing UK On Sky Channel 432 Maiden Stakes | 10/13 | 1 | 8-12 | 68 | 42A | Lee Topliss | 20/1 |
| 17 Jun 10+21d | Ripon | E.b.f. Bet British With Totepool Maiden Stakes | 4/13 | 2¼ | 9-3 | — | 74A | Tony Hamilton | 22/1 |
| 27 May 10+29d | Ayr | European Breeders' Fund Maiden Stakes | 7/8 | 9 | 8-10 | — | 26C | Lee Topliss | 12/1 |
| 28 Apr 10 | Pontefract | E.B.F. Northern Racing College Maiden Stakes | 4/7 | 4½ | 9-3 | — | 67A | Paul Hanagan | 2/1F |
Quick answers
- How many races has Mr Optimistic (GB) won?
- Mr Optimistic (GB) won 6 of 35 archived starts between 2010 and 2013, a strike rate of 17.1%. Placed 8 times in total (22.9% of starts).
- Who trained Mr Optimistic (GB)?
- Mr Optimistic (GB) was trained by Paul Howling on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 2 April 2013.
- Who is Mr Optimistic (GB)'s sire?
- Mr Optimistic (GB) is by Kyllachy (GB) out of Noble Desert (FR), whose sire is Green Desert.
- What going does Mr Optimistic (GB) prefer?
- Mr Optimistic (GB) has the best record on good to soft going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is Mr Optimistic (GB)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 58, from the run on 2 April 2013. The highest on record is 85.
- What is Mr Optimistic (GB)'s sire's record?
- Kyllachy (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 13,847 runs since Jan 2008 (800 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 5.8% from 468.
- Who are Mr Optimistic (GB)'s siblings?
- Out of Noble Desert (FR), Mr Optimistic (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 5 of them winners. Most wins: The Human League (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 4 (The Human League (GB)). The wins came over 5f–1m1f. As at Oct 2026.