Mr Philosopher (IRE)
Mr Philosopher (IRE) is yet to win from 23 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 14 at Downpatrick (May 2008).
- 0–23Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (8.7%)Placed
- −23.00£1 level staken=23 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=23 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 93Highest OR
- 54dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 8% of 1,805 runs since Jan 2008 (202 horses).
Strongest on heavy going: 12.8% from 265. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5% from 100.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 7 | 1 | 14.3% | +6.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Firm | 174 | 15 | 8.6% | +0.6 | 0 from 5 |
| Good | 476 | 33 | 6.9% | −1.1 | 0 from 4 |
| Good to Soft | 269 | 18 | 6.7% | −1.3 | — |
| Soft | 513 | 39 | 7.6% | −0.4 | 0 from 9 |
| Heavy | 265 | 34 | 12.8% | +4.8 | 0 from 3 |
| Standard (AW) | 100 | 5 | 5% | −3 | — |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −8 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 13 | 0 | 0% | −8 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 47 | 4 | 8.5% | +0.5 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 131 | 14 | 10.7% | +2.7 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 601 | 31 | 5.2% | −2.8 | 0 from 9 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 571 | 55 | 9.6% | +1.6 | 0 from 10 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 351 | 33 | 9.4% | +1.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Over 3m | 90 | 8 | 8.9% | +0.9 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Queen's Fortune (IRE) | 1 | 0 | — | — |
| Kai Mer (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| Good to Firm | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Good | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Heavy | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Down Royal | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Downpatrick | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Tralee | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Tramore (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Roscommon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wexford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kilbeggan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Martin Mooney | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Niki O'Shea | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Pierce Gallagher | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Phillip Enright | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Sean McDermott | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Robert Molloy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| J R Ryan | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Paul Carberry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Mr N McKnight | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Niall P Madden | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| P J Benson | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| D T Evans | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ken Whelan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Hood + visor | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Tongue tie | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Blinkers | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2008 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2007 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2006 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2005 | 13 | 0 | 0% | −13.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 18 | 0 | 0% | −18.00 |
| Chase | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25 May 08+15d | Tralee | Denny Handicap Chase (0-116) | 12/16 | 9 | 10-6 | 90 | 88C | Paul Carberry | 9/4F |
| 10 May 08+27d | Downpatrick | Bet With The Tote Handicap Chase (0-102) | 2/14 | 1 | 10-12 | 88 | 114A | Martin Mooney | 16/1 |
| 13 Apr 08+21d | Tramore (IRE) | Waterford & Tramore Directors Chase | 6/10 | 2 | 11-4 | — | 85A | Martin Mooney | 50/1 |
| 23 Mar 08+21d | Fairyhouse | Ryan's Cleaning Services Beginners Chase | 7/10 | ½ | 11-12 | 93 | 86C | Martin Mooney | 66/1 |
| 02 Mar 08+29d | Clonmel | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle | 11/18 | 1¾ | 10-13 | 77 | 92C | Phillip Enright | 50/1 |
| 02 Feb 08+322d | Fairyhouse | Easter Four-Day Festival Handicap Hurdle (77-90) | 12/16 | 1¼ | 10-9 | 77 | 79C | Phillip Enright | 20/1 |
| 17 Mar 07+247d | Down Royal | Stella Artois Hunters Chase | F/20 | — | 10-11 | — | — | Mr N McKnight | 16/1 |
| 13 Jul 06+20d | Downpatrick | Ardglass Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 4/14 | 1¾ | 10-6 | 76 | 104C | Sean McDermott | 14/1 |
| 23 Jun 06+61d | Down Royal | Dennison Handicap Hurdle (74-102) | 7/19 | 4 | 10-4 | 78 | 70C | Sean McDermott | 25/1 |
| 23 Apr 06+117d | Sligo | EBF Novice Hurdle | 11/14 | 15 | 11-5 | 78 | 82C | Niall P Madden | 25/1 |
| 27 Dec 05+30d | Down Royal | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (74-102) | 12/17 | 2 | 10-4 | 82 | 72C | P J Benson | 10/1 |
| 27 Nov 05+22d | Navan | Ladbrokes Handicap Hurdle (81-109) | 17/26 | 2½ | 10-4 | 83 | 68C | D T Evans | 33/1 |
| 05 Nov 05+33d | Down Royal | Maiden Hurdle | 6/19 | hd | 10-12 | 81 | 88C | Niki O'Shea | 20/1 |
| 03 Oct 05+17d | Roscommon | Brogans Bakery Novice Hurdle | 5/17 | 6 | 10-12 | 80 | 99C | Niki O'Shea | 33/1 |
| 16 Sep 05+18d | Downpatrick | Fosters Lager Ardglass Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | 5/15 | 1 | 10-11 | 81 | 96C | Robert Molloy | 8/1 |
| 29 Aug 05+22d | Downpatrick | Eastwood Bookmakers Telebetting Handicap Hurdle (74-95) | F/15 | — | 10-12 | 81 | — | Robert Molloy | 5/1 |
| 07 Aug 05+2d | Downpatrick | Pat O'Hare Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle (70-102) | 3/9 | nk | 10-1 | 80 | 82C | Niki O'Shea | 13/2 |
| 05 Aug 05+27d | Wexford | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (70-88) | 7/16 | 9 | 10-9 | 80 | 74C | Pierce Gallagher | 12/1 |
| 09 Jul 05+20d | Fairyhouse | Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (70-109) | 5/22 | nk | 9-6 | 81 | 78C | Pierce Gallagher | 25/1 |
| 19 Jun 05+2d | Down Royal | Stanleybet In Ireland Handicap Hurdle (74-116) | F/15 | — | 9-3 | 84 | — | Pierce Gallagher | 16/1 |
| 17 Jun 05+13d | Down Royal | Dennison Commercials Ltd. Handicap Hurdle (70-102) | 9/20 | 3½ | 9-13 | 81 | 83C | J R Ryan | 20/1 |
| 04 Jun 05+108d | Kilbeggan | Bloomfield House Hotel Hurdle | 7/14 | 3 | 10-13 | 81 | 86C | J R Ryan | 50/1 |
| 16 Feb 05 | Down Royal | Bank Of Ireland/Childline Novice Handicap Hurdle (74-109) | 11/15 | 1 | 10-4 | 83 | 83C | Ken Whelan | 12/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Mr Philosopher (IRE) won?
- Mr Philosopher (IRE) has yet to win, from 23 archived starts between 2005 and 2008. Placed 2 times in total (8.7% of starts).
- Who trained Mr Philosopher (IRE)?
- Mr Philosopher (IRE) was trained by Suzanne Cox on the most recent run on record, at Tralee on 25 May 2008.
- Who is Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s sire?
- Mr Philosopher (IRE) is by Revoque (IRE) out of No Shame (GB), whose sire is Formidable I.
- What is Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 90, from the run on 25 May 2008. The highest on record is 93.
- What is Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s sire's record?
- Revoque (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8% of 1,805 runs since Jan 2008 (202 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 12.8% from 265. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5% from 100.
- Who are Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s siblings?
- Out of No Shame (GB), Mr Philosopher (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.