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Horse profile

Mr Philosopher (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, May 2008) · Last trainer Suzanne Cox · Last owner Suzanne Cox
by Revoque (IRE) out of No Shame (GB) (Formidable I)
23 runs · 11 courses · from Feb 2005
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 25 May 2008 — 6,723 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run May 2008 · 12th of 16 Beaten favourite LTO Last raced off OR 90
KTB Profile

Mr Philosopher (IRE) is yet to win from 23 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 14 at Downpatrick (May 2008).

Based on 23 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
Official rating90↓ 3lb off peak
90 76–93

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 114A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Downpatrick, 10 May 2008 Official rating 90 at the last run, 25 May 2008

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 20 figures · best 114A · median 84
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Soft899C85.5—
Good4114A85.5—
Heavy388C82—
Good to Firm3104C96—
Firm278C74—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f8104C80.5—
1m5f – 2m899C83—
2m5f – 3m4114A87—

Of 23 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 20 figures from 23 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Revoque (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 8% of 1,805 runs since Jan 2008 (202 horses).

Strongest on heavy going: 12.8% from 265. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5% from 100.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm7114.3%+6.30 from 2
Good to Firm174158.6%+0.60 from 5
Good476336.9%−1.10 from 4
Good to Soft269186.7%−1.3—
Soft513397.6%−0.40 from 9
Heavy2653412.8%+4.80 from 3
Standard (AW)10055%−3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f100%−8—
6f – 7f1300%−8—
1m – 1m1f4748.5%+0.5—
1m2f – 1m4f1311410.7%+2.7—
1m5f – 2m601315.2%−2.80 from 9
2m1f – 2m4f571559.6%+1.60 from 10
2m5f – 3m351339.4%+1.40 from 4
Over 3m9088.9%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
No Shame (GB) (Formidable I)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Queen's Fortune (IRE)10——
Kai Mer (IRE)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 9 0 0% −9.00
Good to Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Firm 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Down Royal 7 0 0% −7.00
Downpatrick 5 0 0% −5.00
Fairyhouse 3 0 0% −3.00
Tralee 1 0 0% −1.00
Tramore (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Clonmel 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Wexford 1 0 0% −1.00
Kilbeggan 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 10 0 0% −10.00
1m5f – 2m 9 0 0% −9.00
2m5f – 3m 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Martin Mooney 3 0 0% −3.00
Niki O'Shea 3 0 0% −3.00
Pierce Gallagher 3 0 0% −3.00
Phillip Enright 2 0 0% −2.00
Sean McDermott 2 0 0% −2.00
Robert Molloy 2 0 0% −2.00
J R Ryan 2 0 0% −2.00
Paul Carberry 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr N McKnight 1 0 0% −1.00
Niall P Madden 1 0 0% −1.00
P J Benson 1 0 0% −1.00
D T Evans 1 0 0% −1.00
Ken Whelan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 8 0 0% −8.00
Hood + visor 8 0 0% −8.00
Tongue tie 5 0 0% −5.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2008 6 0 0% −6.00
2007 1 0 0% −1.00
2006 3 0 0% −3.00
2005 13 0 0% −13.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 18 0 0% −18.00
Chase 5 0 0% −5.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
25 May 08+15d Tralee Denny Handicap Chase (0-116) 24f · Good · 16 ran 12/16 9 10-6 9088C Paul Carberry 9/4F
10 May 08+27d Downpatrick Bet With The Tote Handicap Chase (0-102) 23f · Good · 14 ran 2/14 1 10-12 88114A Martin Mooney 16/1
13 Apr 08+21d Tramore (IRE) Waterford & Tramore Directors Chase 22f · Yielding · 10 ran 6/10 2 11-4 —85A Martin Mooney 50/1
23 Mar 08+21d Fairyhouse Ryan's Cleaning Services Beginners Chase 22.5f · Yielding To Soft · 10 ran 7/10 ½ 11-12 9386C Martin Mooney 66/1
02 Mar 08+29d Clonmel Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden Hurdle 20f · Yielding To Soft · 18 ran 11/18 1¾ 10-13 7792C Phillip Enright 50/1
02 Feb 08+322d Fairyhouse Easter Four-Day Festival Handicap Hurdle (77-90) 20f · Heavy · 16 ran 12/16 1¼ 10-9 7779C Phillip Enright 20/1
17 Mar 07+247d Down Royal Stella Artois Hunters Chase 20f · Yielding To Soft · 20 ran F/20 — 10-11 —— Mr N McKnight 16/1
13 Jul 06+20d Downpatrick Ardglass Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 18f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 4/14 1¾ 10-6 76104C Sean McDermott 14/1
23 Jun 06+61d Down Royal Dennison Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 16f · Firm · 19 ran 7/19 4 10-4 7870C Sean McDermott 25/1
23 Apr 06+117d Sligo EBF Novice Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 14 ran 11/14 15 11-5 7882C Niall P Madden 25/1
27 Dec 05+30d Down Royal Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (74-102) 16f · Yielding To Soft · 17 ran 12/17 2 10-4 8272C P J Benson 10/1
27 Nov 05+22d Navan Ladbrokes Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 20f · Soft · 26 ran 17/26 2½ 10-4 8368C D T Evans 33/1
05 Nov 05+33d Down Royal Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft To Heavy · 19 ran 6/19 hd 10-12 8188C Niki O'Shea 20/1
03 Oct 05+17d Roscommon Brogans Bakery Novice Hurdle 16f · Soft · 17 ran 5/17 6 10-12 8099C Niki O'Shea 33/1
16 Sep 05+18d Downpatrick Fosters Lager Ardglass Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 18f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 5/15 1 10-11 8196C Robert Molloy 8/1
29 Aug 05+22d Downpatrick Eastwood Bookmakers Telebetting Handicap Hurdle (74-95) 16f · Good To Firm · 15 ran F/15 — 10-12 81— Robert Molloy 5/1
07 Aug 05+2d Downpatrick Pat O'Hare Bookmakers Handicap Hurdle (70-102) 18f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 3/9 nk 10-1 8082C Niki O'Shea 13/2
05 Aug 05+27d Wexford Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (70-88) 18f · Good · 16 ran 7/16 9 10-9 8074C Pierce Gallagher 12/1
09 Jul 05+20d Fairyhouse Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (70-109) 20f · Firm · 22 ran 5/22 nk 9-6 8178C Pierce Gallagher 25/1
19 Jun 05+2d Down Royal Stanleybet In Ireland Handicap Hurdle (74-116) 20f · Good To Firm · 15 ran F/15 — 9-3 84— Pierce Gallagher 16/1
17 Jun 05+13d Down Royal Dennison Commercials Ltd. Handicap Hurdle (70-102) 16f · Good · 20 ran 9/20 3½ 9-13 8183C J R Ryan 20/1
04 Jun 05+108d Kilbeggan Bloomfield House Hotel Hurdle 16f · Yielding To Soft · 14 ran 7/14 3 10-13 8186C J R Ryan 50/1
16 Feb 05 Down Royal Bank Of Ireland/Childline Novice Handicap Hurdle (74-109) 16f · Soft · 15 ran 11/15 1 10-4 8383C Ken Whelan 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has Mr Philosopher (IRE) won?
Mr Philosopher (IRE) has yet to win, from 23 archived starts between 2005 and 2008. Placed 2 times in total (8.7% of starts).
Who trained Mr Philosopher (IRE)?
Mr Philosopher (IRE) was trained by Suzanne Cox on the most recent run on record, at Tralee on 25 May 2008.
Who is Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s sire?
Mr Philosopher (IRE) is by Revoque (IRE) out of No Shame (GB), whose sire is Formidable I.
What is Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 90, from the run on 25 May 2008. The highest on record is 93.
What is Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s sire's record?
Revoque (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8% of 1,805 runs since Jan 2008 (202 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on heavy going: 12.8% from 265. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 5% from 100.
Who are Mr Philosopher (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of No Shame (GB), Mr Philosopher (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.