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Horse profile

Never Forever (GB)

5yo gelding (at last run, Jul 2014) · Last trainer Jim Goldie · Last owner Barry Macdonald
by Sir Percy (GB) out of Codename (GB) (Sadler's Wells)
16 runs · 9 courses · from Aug 2012
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 12 Jul 2014 — 4,484 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2014 · 1st of 7 Won last time out 3 wins · Hamilton & Newcastle Last raced off OR 71
KTB Profile

Never Forever (GB) is 3 from 16. Won last time out at Hamilton (Class 5). Every win has come on good or faster ground (0 from 6 on softer).

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster
Official rating71↓ 1lb off peak
71 59–72

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 95B the best of the last 3 rated runs · Hamilton, 12 Jul 2014 Official rating 71 at the last run, 12 Jul 2014

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 16 figures · best 95B · median 76.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft682A79—
Good to Firm595B75—
Good590A69—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f695B68.5—
1m – 1m1f690A80.5—
6f – 7f391A69—
Under 6f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.1% of 7,149 runs since Jan 2008 (473 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm52815.4%+4.3—
Good to Firm1,17614912.7%+1.62 from 5
Good1,73419011%−0.11 from 5
Good to Soft908859.4%−1.70 from 6
Soft8598610%−1.1—
Heavy2052713.2%+2.1—
Standard (AW)2,21525211.4%+0.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f90910%−1.10 from 1
6f – 7f967848.7%−2.41 from 3
1m – 1m1f1,15211610.1%−11 from 6
1m2f – 1m4f2,51829911.9%+0.81 from 6
1m5f – 2m1,59119011.9%+0.8—
2m1f – 2m4f5136111.9%+0.8—
2m5f – 3m2482811.3%+0.2—
Over 3m701014.3%+3.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Codename (GB) (Sadler's Wells)

1 sibling in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Cryptonym (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m1f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Cryptonym (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Cryptonym (GB)511m1fClass 5

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Good to Firm 5 2 40% +9.50
Good 5 1 20% +0.50

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 8 2 25% +3.00
Class 4 7 0 0% −7.00
Class 6 1 1 100% +8.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Hamilton 4 1 25% +1.50
Newcastle 4 2 50% +10.50
Ayr 2 0 0% −2.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Redcar 1 0 0% −1.00
Pontefract 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Ripon 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 6 1 17% −0.50
1m – 1m1f 6 1 17% −0.50
6f – 7f 3 1 33% +6.00
Under 6f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
P J McDonald 7 2 29% +7.50
Tom Eaves 2 1 50% +3.50
Garry Whillans 2 0 0% −2.00
Graham Lee 1 0 0% −1.00
Jack Garritty 1 0 0% −1.00
Jason Hart 1 0 0% −1.00
Connor Beasley 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrew Elliott 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2014 6 1 17% −0.50
2013 7 2 29% +7.50
2012 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
12 Jul 14+6d Hamilton Sunday Mail Handicap Class 5 · 11f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 1/7 9-10 7195B Tom Eaves 9/2
06 Jul 14+23d Ayr FSB Health & Wellbeing Handicap Class 4 · 10f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 2/7 ½ 9-0 7175A Graham Lee 7/1
13 Jun 14+8d Musselburgh Investec Wealth And Investment Edinburgh Handicap Class 4 · 9f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 2/8 2¼ 8-12 7080A Tom Eaves 9/1
05 Jun 14+14d Hamilton Weatherbys Private Banking Hamiltonian Handicap Class 4 · 9f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 ¾ 8-4 7071A Jack Garritty 10/1
22 May 14+18d Ayr Magners Cider Handicap (Qualifier For The 15,000 Betfair Scottish Mile Series Final) Class 5 · 8f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 3/9 ½ 8-12 7178A Garry Whillans 11/2
04 May 14+211d Hamilton Ginger Grouse Handicap Class 5 · 8.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 5/12 ¾ 9-1 7181A Garry Whillans 16/1
05 Oct 13+16d Redcar Market Cross Jewellers Handicap Class 4 · 10f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 11/13 nk 8-7 7157C Jason Hart 9/1
19 Sep 13+49d Pontefract Book Your Christmas Party Here On 0113 2876387 Handicap Class 4 · 10f · Good · 14 ran 4/14 ¾ 8-7 7178A Connor Beasley 14/1
01 Aug 13+43d Nottingham Sponsor A Race At Nottingham Racecourse Handicap Class 4 · 10f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 9/11 1¼ 9-3 7260A P J McDonald 8/1
19 Jun 13+18d Ripon ripon-races.co.uk Handicap Class 4 · 10f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 6/8 2½ 8-10 7262A P J McDonald 7/2F
01 Jun 13+15d Newcastle Betfred 'Bonus King Bingo' Handicap (Str) Class 5 · 8f · Good · 14 ran 1/14 9-5 6890A P J McDonald 9/2
17 May 13+9d Hamilton Saints & Sinners Racenight In June Handicap Class 5 · 8.5f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 2/8 1¼ 8-12 5982A Andrew Elliott 7/2F
08 May 13+240d Newcastle Bet365.com Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 1/10 9-4 5991A P J McDonald 8/1
10 Sep 12+17d Newcastle Deloitte/British Stallion Studs E.B.F. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 5f · Good · 13 ran 8/13 ¾ 9-3 —62A P J McDonald 20/1
24 Aug 12+6d Newcastle Christmas Parties At Close House Supporting C.H.U.F. Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 1¼ 9-3 —51A P J McDonald 4/1
18 Aug 12 Doncaster Robinsons Of Bawtry Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Good · 7 ran 5/7 2 9-3 —69B P J McDonald 16/1

Quick answers

How many races has Never Forever (GB) won?
Never Forever (GB) won 3 of 16 archived starts between 2012 and 2014, a strike rate of 18.8%. Placed 7 times in total (43.8% of starts).
Who trained Never Forever (GB)?
Never Forever (GB) was trained by Jim Goldie on the most recent run on record, at Hamilton on 12 July 2014.
Who is Never Forever (GB)'s sire?
Never Forever (GB) is by Sir Percy (GB) out of Codename (GB), whose sire is Sadler's Wells.
What going does Never Forever (GB) prefer?
Never Forever (GB) has the best record on good to firm going: 2 wins from 5 starts (40%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Never Forever (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 71, from the run on 12 July 2014. The highest on record is 72.
What is Never Forever (GB)'s sire's record?
Sir Percy (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.1% of 7,149 runs since Jan 2008 (473 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Never Forever (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Codename (GB), Never Forever (GB) has 1 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Cryptonym (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Cryptonym (GB)). The wins came over 1m1f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from August 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.