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Horse profile

Never Never (IRE)

6yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2016) · Last trainer Iain Jardine · Last owner Paul Clare Rooney
by Jeremy (USA) out of Argus Gal (IRE) (Alzao)
16 runs · 11 courses · from Jan 2014
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 20 Mar 2016 — 3,867 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2016 · 3rd of 7 2 wins · Cartmel & Hexham Last raced off OR 115
KTB Profile

Never Never (IRE) is 2 from 16. Hasn't won since May 2014. Each win came on a first visit to the course.

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
Official rating115↓ 7lb off peak
115 115–122

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 111A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Carlisle, 20 Mar 2016 Official rating 115 at the last jumps run, 20 Mar 2016

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 69A the best of the last 1 rated run · Wolverhampton (AW), 13 Feb 2016

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 14 figures · best 137A · median 111
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good5118A116—
Good to Soft4137A115—
Soft4111B106.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m8137A109—
2m1f – 2m4f6118A112—
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 16 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 15 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 6,724 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses).

Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.5% from 664. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 16.3% from 147. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.8% from 743.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm10110%−1.2—
Good to Firm386379.6%−1.6—
Good1,81120711.4%+0.21 from 6
Good to Soft1,04414513.9%+2.70 from 4
Soft1,95322011.3%+0.11 from 4
Heavy8569010.5%−0.70 from 1
Standard (AW)664507.5%−3.70 from 1
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f192199.9%−1.3—
6f – 7f743587.8%−3.4—
1m – 1m1f653629.5%−1.7—
1m2f – 1m4f6846910.1%−1.10 from 1
1m5f – 2m1,88924112.8%+1.61 from 8
2m1f – 2m4f1,68021112.6%+1.41 from 7
2m5f – 3m736669%−2.2—
Over 3m1472416.3%+5.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Argus Gal (IRE) (Alzao)

5 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Restless Bay (IRE) (6 wins).

The wins came over 5f–6f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Restless Bay (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Restless Bay (IRE)7965f–6fClass 5
Calzini Bianchi (IRE)20——
Fight On (IRE)90——
Mayo Jim (IRE)30——
Budle Bay (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 6 1 17% −3.00
Good to Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 4 1 25% −1.50
Standard (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 10 1 10% −7.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 1 100% +1.50

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Bangor-on-Dee 3 0 0% −3.00
Perth 3 0 0% −3.00
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Cartmel 1 1 100% +2.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 1 100% +1.50
Down Royal 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 8 1 13% −5.50
2m1f – 2m4f 7 1 14% −4.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
A P McCoy 4 2 50% +1.50
Ms K Walsh 3 0 0% −3.00
Jason Maguire 2 0 0% −2.00
Sam Twiston-Davies 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Shortall 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Mulrennan 1 0 0% −1.00
Finian O'Toole 1 0 0% −1.00
Wilson Renwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Noel Fehily 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2016 3 0 0% −3.00
2015 1 0 0% −1.00
2014 12 2 17% −6.50

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 11 1 9% −8.00
NH Flat 4 1 25% −1.50
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
20 Mar 16+36d Carlisle ApolloBet Online Casino & Games Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 3/7 13 11-7 115111A Shane Shortall 3/1
13 Feb 16+43d Wolverhampton (AW) coral.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 12f · Standard · 9 ran 6/9 nk 9-8 —69A Paul Mulrennan 28/1
01 Jan 16+360d Musselburgh Totepool Happy New Year Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 8/12 nk 11-4 119104A Finian O'Toole 16/1
06 Jan 15+15d Sedgefield Betfred Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 19f · Soft · 8 ran 5/8 19 11-13 119100A Wilson Renwick 11/1
22 Dec 14+88d Bangor-on-Dee Dundee Partnership Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 2/12 2¾ 11-5 115137A Jason Maguire 15/2
25 Sep 14+27d Perth Betfair Scottish Hurdle Series Final (Novices' Handicap Hurdle) Class 3 · 20f · Good · 7 ran PU/7 — 11-10 119— Jason Maguire 13/2
29 Aug 14+13d Bangor-on-Dee Sportingbet.com Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 3 ran 2/3 8 11-3 122116C A P McCoy 10/11F
16 Aug 14+34d Perth CPS Global Novices' Hurdle (Betfair Scottish Hurdle Series Qualifier) Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 6 ran 2/6 1½ 11-4 122119B Sam Twiston-Davies 4/6F
13 Jul 14+48d Perth Crabbie's Alcoholic Ginger Beer Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 7 11-2 122113B Noel Fehily 11/4
26 May 14+9d Cartmel Rowleys Catering At Cartmel Four Years Old Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Good · 8 ran 1/8 10-12 —118A A P McCoy 2/1F
17 May 14+14d Bangor-on-Dee Racing Uk 'national Hunt' Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 8 ran 2/8 6 10-10 —116B A P McCoy 7/4
03 May 14+33d Uttoxeter William Hill - Bet On The Move 'national Hunt' Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 13 ran 4/13 1¼ 10-10 —98A Sam Twiston-Davies 8/1
31 Mar 14+29d Hexham Hexham For Tourists Maiden Open NH Flat Race (Div 2) Class 6 · 16f · Soft · 9 ran 1/9 10-11 —111B A P McCoy 6/4F
02 Mar 14+25d Leopardstown Killiney (Pro/Am) Flat Race 16f · Soft · 7 ran 2/7 1¾ 11-5 —107B Ms K Walsh 16/1
05 Feb 14+11d Down Royal Dark Horse Wine Bar At Down Royal Flat Race 16f · Heavy · 7 ran 4/7 13 11-7 —99A Ms K Walsh 13/2
25 Jan 14 Leopardstown www.leopardstown.com (Pro/Am) Flat Race 16f · Soft · 12 ran 7/12 1¼ 11-7 —106A Ms K Walsh 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Never Never (IRE) won?
Never Never (IRE) won 2 of 16 archived starts between 2014 and 2016, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 7 times in total (43.8% of starts).
Who trained Never Never (IRE)?
Never Never (IRE) was trained by Iain Jardine on the most recent run on record, at Carlisle on 20 March 2016.
Who is Never Never (IRE)'s sire?
Never Never (IRE) is by Jeremy (USA) out of Argus Gal (IRE), whose sire is Alzao.
What going does Never Never (IRE) prefer?
Never Never (IRE) has the best record on soft going: 1 win from 4 starts (25%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Never Never (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 115, from the run on 20 March 2016. The highest on record is 122.
What is Never Never (IRE)'s sire's record?
Jeremy (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.2% of 6,724 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on standard (aw) going: 7.5% from 664. Strongest at trips beyond 3m (all codes): 16.3% from 147. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 7.8% from 743.
Who are Never Never (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Argus Gal (IRE), Never Never (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Restless Bay (IRE) (6). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Restless Bay (IRE)). The wins came over 5f–6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from January 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.