No Needs Never (IRE)
No Needs Never (IRE) is 2 from 14, including a Listed win. The biggest win we hold: the iCopy Irish EBF Star Appeal Stakes at Dundalk (AW) (Oct 2018). Hasn't won since Oct 2018. Last raced off 96, 10lb below the career-high mark.
- 2–14Wins / Runs
- 14.3%Strike rate
- 5 (35.7%)Placed
- −1.00£1 level staken=14 at SP
- 1.00Fair A/E n=14 · 0.84 incl. margin
- 106Highest OR
- 63dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
Best recent Speed 93
How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →
| Going | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 6 | 130C | 81.5 | — |
| Good to Firm | 3 | 92A | 78 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 116A | 95 | — |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 101A | 99 | — |
| Distance | Runs | Best | Median | Since 28 Oct 2025 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 12 | 130C | 88.5 | — |
| Under 6f | 1 | — | — | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | — | — | — |
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 14 figures from 14 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,335 runs since Jan 2008 (707 horses).
Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 16 | 5 | 31.3% | +19.2 | — |
| Good to Firm | 927 | 122 | 13.2% | +1.1 | 1 from 3 |
| Good | 1,489 | 181 | 12.2% | +0.1 | 0 from 6 |
| Good to Soft | 612 | 55 | 9% | −3.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 845 | 110 | 13% | +0.9 | — |
| Heavy | 285 | 37 | 13% | +0.9 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 2,161 | 256 | 11.8% | −0.3 | 1 from 3 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 911 | 122 | 13.4% | +1.3 | 0 from 1 |
| 6f – 7f | 3,391 | 440 | 13% | +0.9 | 2 from 12 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1,183 | 131 | 11.1% | −1 | 0 from 1 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 583 | 54 | 9.3% | −2.8 | — |
| 1m5f – 2m | 185 | 14 | 7.6% | −4.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 77 | 5 | 6.5% | −5.6 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 5 | 0 | 0% | −12.1 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
5 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Operatic Artist (IRE) (1 win).
The wins came over 7f–1m1½f; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Capitano Josepi (IRE)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Operatic Artist (IRE) | 10 | 1 | 1m1½f | Class 5 |
| Capitano Josepi (IRE) | 2 | 1 | 7f | Class 4 |
| Dream Camelot (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
| Cavriana (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
| Arabian Belle (IRE) | 2 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Good to Firm | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 3 | 1 | 33% | +6.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 2 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Class 1 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Naas | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Dundalk (AW) | 3 | 1 | 33% | +6.00 |
| Cork | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Curragh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Limerick | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Leopardstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Doncaster | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Down Royal | 1 | 1 | 100% | +3.00 |
| Ascot | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6f – 7f | 12 | 2 | 17% | +1.00 |
| Under 6f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Shane Crosse | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Mikey Sheehy | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Donnacha O'Brien | 3 | 1 | 33% | +1.00 |
| W J Lee | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Declan McDonogh | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Seamie Heffernan | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 10 | 2 | 20% | +3.00 |
| Tongue tie | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| 2019 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| 2018 | 6 | 2 | 33% | +7.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | Spd | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2020 · 7 runs | ||||||||||
| 08 Aug 20+17d | Cork | Platinum Stakes (Listed) | 12/13 | 4¾ | 9-9 | 96 | 84C | 67C | Shane Crosse | 40/1 |
| 22 Jul 20+25d | Naas | Naas Race | 7/12 | nk | 9-5 | 98 | 79A | 84A | Mikey Sheehy | 8/1 |
| 27 Jun 20+10d | Curragh | Dubai Duty Free Millennium Millionaire Handicap (Premier Handicap) | 10/18 | hd | 9-7 | 101 | 130C | 88A | Mikey Sheehy | 14/1 |
| 17 Jun 20+9d | Limerick | Limerick Race | 4/7 | 1 | 9-3 | 101 | 93A | 74A | Mikey Sheehy | 5/2 |
| 08 Jun 20+101d | Naas | Anglesey Lodge Equine Hospital Woodlands Stakes (Listed) | 8/11 | nk | 9-7 | 101 | 92A | 91A | Declan McDonogh | 18/1 |
| 28 Feb 20+49d | Dundalk (AW) | Floodlit Fridays Continue At Dundalk Stadium Race | 3/6 | shd | 9-2 | 105 | 116A | 88B | Shane Crosse | 15/8 |
| 10 Jan 20+272d | Dundalk (AW) | Bet On The Best Night Out At Dundalk Stadium Race | 2/8 | 2¾ | 8-13 | 106 | 92A | 90A | Shane Crosse | 4/5F |
| 2019 · 1 run | ||||||||||
| 13 Apr 19+175d | Naas | Gladness Stakes (group 3) | 2/9 | ½ | 8-7 | 104 | 101A | 86A | Shane Crosse | 8/1 |
| 2018 · 6 runs | ||||||||||
| 20 Oct 18+15d | Leopardstown | Killavullan Stakes (Group 3) | 5/10 | 3¾ | 9-3 | 103 | 97A | 87A | W J Lee | 15/8F |
| 05 Oct 18+22d | Dundalk (AW) | iCopy Irish EBF Star Appeal Stakes (Listed) | 1/6 | 9-3 | 94 | 95A | 94B | Seamie Heffernan | 8/1 | |
| 13 Sep 18+48d | Doncaster | Weatherbys Racing Bank 300,000 2-Y-O Stakes | 4/22 | ½ | 9-2 | 93 | 76C | 100A | Donnacha O'Brien | 16/1 |
| 27 Jul 18+38d | Down Royal | Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Maiden | 1/5 | 9-5 | — | 78C | 92B | Donnacha O'Brien | 3/1 | |
| 19 Jun 18+32d | Ascot | Coventry Stakes (Group 2) | 21/23 | ½ | 9-1 | — | 56C | 71A | Donnacha O'Brien | 33/1 |
| 18 May 18 | Cork | Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden (Plus 10) | 2/13 | ½ | 9-5 | — | 62C | 95A | W J Lee | 25/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has No Needs Never won?
- No Needs Never (IRE) won 2 of 14 archived starts between 2018 and 2020, a strike rate of 14.3%. Placed 5 times in total (35.7% of starts).
- Who trained No Needs Never?
- No Needs Never (IRE) was trained by Joseph Patrick O'Brien on the most recent run on record, at Cork on 8 August 2020.
- Who is No Needs Never's sire?
- No Needs Never (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Opera Fan (FR), whose sire is Cape Cross.
- What going does No Needs Never prefer?
- No Needs Never (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
- What is No Needs Never's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 96, from the run on 8 August 2020. The highest on record is 106.
- What is No Needs Never's sire's record?
- No Nay Never (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 12.1% of 6,335 runs since Jan 2008 (707 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on good to soft going: 9% from 612. Weakest over 1m5f – 2m (all codes): 7.6% from 185.
- Who are No Needs Never's siblings?
- Out of Opera Fan (FR), No Needs Never (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Operatic Artist (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Capitano Josepi (IRE)). The wins came over 7f–1m1½f. As at Oct 2026.