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Horse profile

Not Never (GB)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jan 2020) · Last trainer Gary Moore · Last owner Hail Sargent Evans
by Notnowcato (GB) out of Watchoverme (GB) (Haafhd)
27 runs · 18 courses · from Oct 2014
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Jan 2020 — 2,474 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jan 2020 8 wins · 6 courses Last raced off OR 135
KTB Profile

Not Never (GB) is 8 from 27. Hasn't won since Dec 2019. Last raced off a career-high mark of 135.

Based on 27 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR at career high
Official rating135At career-high mark
135 81–135

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 132 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Warwick, 22 May 2019

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Jumps 12 figures · best 143B · median 98.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft5112A95—
Heavy3114A82—
Good3132A120—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m10132A96.5—
2m1f – 2m4f2143B128.5—
Flat 4 figures · best 117A · median 113.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2117A89.5—
Good1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m2117A116—
2m1f – 2m4f1———
1m2f – 1m4f1———

Of 19 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · did not complete (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 19 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 136A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Taunton, 12 Dec 2019 Official rating 135 at the last jumps run, 5 Jan 2020

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 97A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Salisbury, 10 Oct 2016 Official rating 95 at the last flat run, 18 Jun 2019

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Jumps 14 figures · best 140B · median 118
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Soft5136A114—
Heavy4136A105—
Good4140B128.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m11140B114—
2m1f – 2m4f3130B129—
Flat 12 figures · best 99A · median 87
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Good to Soft799A91—
Good394A80—
Soft294B80.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f599A94—
1m5f – 2m497A87—
1m – 1m1f291A79—
2m1f – 2m4f1———

Of 27 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 26 figures from 27 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 2,365 runs since Jan 2008 (226 horses).

Strongest on good to soft going: 14.5% from 385. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 6.6% from 349.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm1700%−9.8—
Good to Firm2662710.2%+0.4—
Good6506710.3%+0.53 from 7
Good to Soft3855614.5%+4.73 from 8
Soft466347.3%−2.51 from 8
Heavy171179.9%+0.11 from 4
Standard (AW)410317.6%−2.2—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f5247.7%−2.1—
6f – 7f349236.6%−3.2—
1m – 1m1f3624612.7%+2.91 from 2
1m2f – 1m4f3663910.7%+0.91 from 5
1m5f – 2m5255310.1%+0.34 from 15
2m1f – 2m4f4014010%+0.22 from 5
2m5f – 3m272238.5%−1.3—
Over 3m38410.5%+0.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

4 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Final Watch (GB) (4 wins).

The wins came over 7f–2m; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Final Watch (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Final Watch (GB)2447fClass 3
My Poem (GB)2731m3f–2mClass 5
Mistress Nellie (GB)3621m2f–1m4fClass 6
Give Me Breath (GB)50——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 8 1 13% −6.56
Good to Soft 8 3 38% +15.50
Good 7 3 43% −0.68
Heavy 4 1 25% +0.50

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 11 3 27% +7.25
Class 4 7 3 43% +1.57
Class 2 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 5 2 2 100% +6.94
Class 1 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Plumpton 5 2 40% +1.75
Ascot 2 0 0% −2.00
Fontwell 2 2 100% +3.57
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Doncaster 2 0 0% −2.00
Newmarket 2 0 0% −2.00
Taunton 1 1 100% +0.44
Warwick 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Huntingdon 1 1 100% +1.50
Lingfield 1 0 0% −1.00
Wincanton 1 0 0% −1.00
Salisbury 1 0 0% −1.00
York 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Chester 1 1 100% +11.00
Redcar 1 1 100% +6.50
Goodwood 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 15 4 27% −4.31
2m1f – 2m4f 5 2 40% +0.57
1m2f – 1m4f 5 1 20% +7.00
1m – 1m1f 2 1 50% +5.50

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Jamie Moore 15 6 40% +1.26
Graham Gibbons 6 2 33% +13.50
Harry Bentley 1 0 0% −1.00
Jim Crowley 1 0 0% −1.00
Josephine Gordon 1 0 0% −1.00
Ryan Moore 1 0 0% −1.00
Pat Smullen 1 0 0% −1.00
James Doyle 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2020 1 0 0% −1.00
2019 6 3 50% +1.01
2018 3 2 67% +3.75
2017 6 1 17% −3.50
2016 3 0 0% −3.00
2015 6 1 17% +6.00
2014 2 1 50% +5.50

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 13 5 38% +1.69
Flat 12 2 17% +7.50
Chase 2 1 50% −0.43

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
05 Jan 20+24d Plumpton Follow At The Races On Twitter Novices' Chase Class 3 · 19.5f · Soft · 4 ran F/4 — 11-3 135—— Jamie Moore 7/2
12 Dec 19+38d Taunton Kings College Selling Hurdle Class 5 · 16.5f · Soft · 9 ran 1/9 11-10 12995A136A Jamie Moore 4/9F
04 Nov 19+139d Plumpton John And Jean Taylor's Diamond Anniversary Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 20.5f · Heavy · 9 ran 6/9 13 11-10 130114A108A Jamie Moore 9/1
18 Jun 19+13d Ascot Ascot Stakes (Handicap) Class 2 · 20f · Good To Soft · 19 ran 10/19 1 9-5 9562C81A Harry Bentley 22/1
05 Jun 19+14d Fontwell Follow At The Races On Twitter Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 18f · Good · 4 ran 1/4 11-0 ——130B Jamie Moore 4/7F
22 May 19+128d Warwick Feldon Dunsmore Carnival Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 16f · Good · 8 ran 5/8 10 11-8 131132A113A Jamie Moore 15/2
14 Jan 19+23d Fontwell Butler & Co Racing Tax Specialists Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 19f · Good To Soft · 12 ran 1/12 11-12 125143B129A Jamie Moore 3/1F
22 Dec 18+299d Ascot Betfair Exchange Trophy (Handicap Hurdle) (Grade 3) Class 1 · 15.5f · Soft · 21 ran 12/21 ¾ 10-7 12885B111A Jamie Moore 14/1
26 Feb 18+50d Plumpton R.a.b.i./joan Collison Memorial Handicap Hurdle Class 3 · 16f · Good · 7 ran 1/7 10-11 113120A140B Jamie Moore 5/4F
07 Jan 18+215d Plumpton Free Race Replays On Attheraces.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 8 ran 1/8 11-12 10882B136A Jamie Moore 7/2
06 Jun 17+39d Southwell Junction 17 Cars Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 15.5f · Soft · 6 ran 2/6 1¼ 11-0 108112A122B Jamie Moore 2/1F
28 Apr 17+67d Huntingdon Ticket Giveaways At 188bet Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good · 10 ran 1/10 11-9 10299A127A Jamie Moore 6/4F
20 Feb 17+9d Lingfield Racing Welfare 24HR Helpline 0800 6300 443 Maiden Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Heavy · 7 ran 6/7 23 11-2 —32C90C Jamie Moore 7/1
11 Feb 17+9d Newbury Read Paul Nicholls Exclusively At Betfair Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 16.5f · Soft · 10 ran 10/10 1¼ 11-2 —53A94A Jamie Moore 28/1
02 Feb 17+17d Wincanton Carling Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 15.5f · Heavy · 8 ran 4/8 1 11-2 ——102A Jamie Moore 9/2
16 Jan 17+87d Plumpton Download The Timeform App Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Soft · 9 ran 4/9 ¾ 11-4 —98B114A Jamie Moore 7/4
21 Oct 16+11d Doncaster Hague Print Solutions Handicap Class 3 · 14.5f · Good · 13 ran 5/13 3 9-12 93115C80C Jim Crowley 5/1
10 Oct 16+24d Salisbury Bathwick Tyres "Season Finale" Handicap Class 3 · 14f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 2/11 1 9-11 93117A97A Josephine Gordon 7/1
16 Sep 16+343d Newbury Dubai Duty Free Finest Surprise Handicap Class 3 · 12f · Soft · 5 ran 2/5 2½ 9-11 93112C94B Ryan Moore 13/8F
09 Oct 15+15d Newmarket Vision Old Rowley Cup (Heritage Handicap) Class 2 · 12f · Good To Soft · 14 ran 11/14 shd 9-2 95—76C Pat Smullen 8/1
24 Sep 15+13d Newmarket Arkle Finance Handicap Class 2 · 12f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 2/9 4 9-6 95—96A Graham Gibbons 9/2
11 Sep 15+20d Doncaster Ladbrokes Mallard Handicap Class 2 · 14.5f · Good · 10 ran 7/10 1¼ 8-5 95—65A Graham Gibbons 3/1F
22 Aug 15+91d York Betfred Melrose Stakes (Handicap) Class 2 · 14f · Good · 18 ran 2/18 hd 8-13 91—94A Graham Gibbons 9/1
23 May 15+17d Haydock Betfred Supports Jack Berry House Handicap Class 3 · 12f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 4/7 ½ 9-7 92—83A Graham Gibbons 11/4F
06 May 15+191d Chester Diabetes UK And British Heart Foundation Handicap Class 3 · 12.5f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 1/9 8-12 81—99A Graham Gibbons 11/1
27 Oct 14+15d Redcar European Breeders' Fund - Double Trigger Maiden Stakes (For The Double Trigger Trophy) Class 5 · 9f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 1/15 9-5 ——91A Graham Gibbons 13/2
12 Oct 14 Goodwood Irish EBF Maiden Stakes Class 4 · 9f · Soft · 12 ran 5/12 ¾ 9-5 ——67A James Doyle 25/1

Quick answers

How many races has Not Never (GB) won?
Not Never (GB) won 8 of 27 archived starts between 2014 and 2020, a strike rate of 29.6%. Placed 13 times in total (48.1% of starts).
Who trained Not Never (GB)?
Not Never (GB) was trained by Gary Moore on the most recent run on record, at Plumpton on 5 January 2020.
Who is Not Never (GB)'s sire?
Not Never (GB) is by Notnowcato (GB) out of Watchoverme (GB), whose sire is Haafhd.
What going does Not Never (GB) prefer?
Not Never (GB) has the best record on good going: 3 wins from 7 starts (42.9%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Not Never (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 135, from the run on 5 January 2020. That is also the highest on record.
What is Not Never (GB)'s sire's record?
Notnowcato (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.8% of 2,365 runs since Jan 2008 (226 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to soft going: 14.5% from 385. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 6.6% from 349.
Who are Not Never (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Watchoverme (GB), Not Never (GB) has 4 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Final Watch (GB) (4). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Final Watch (GB)). The wins came over 7f–2m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2014. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.