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Horse profile

Not So Prudent (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Feb 2012) · Last trainer Philip Hobbs · Last owner Lady Blyth
by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Prudent Princess (GB) (Puissance)
9 runs · 7 courses · from Feb 2009
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 21 Feb 2012 — 5,362 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2012 · 4th of 13 Last raced off OR 95
KTB Profile

Not So Prudent (IRE) is yet to win from 9 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 5 at Uttoxeter (Dec 2010). Last raced off 95, 17lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 109A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Exeter, 1 Jan 2012 Official rating 95 at the last run, 21 Feb 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 5 figures · best 116B · median 109
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Soft2109C105.5—
Soft1———
Heavy1———
Good1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m5f – 3m4116B109—
1m5f – 2m1———

Of 9 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (4).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 5 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Flemensfirth (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,281 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm3800%−11.8—
Good to Firm522509.6%−2.2—
Good4,05344110.9%−0.90 from 1
Good to Soft2,93335412.1%+0.30 from 2
Soft5,87675112.8%+10 from 3
Heavy3,81744911.8%00 from 3
Standard (AW)4224.8%−7—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f200%−11.8—
1m2f – 1m4f2514%−7.8—
1m5f – 2m4,48454712.2%+0.40 from 1
2m1f – 2m4f6,08172411.9%+0.1—
2m5f – 3m5,25762211.8%00 from 8
Over 3m1,43215310.7%−1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Prudent Princess (GB) (Puissance)

4 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Loukaja (IRE)110——
Bach To Back (IRE)70——
My Own Star (IRE)140——
Zipadea (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 3 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Newbury 2 0 0% −2.00
Uttoxeter 2 0 0% −2.00
Taunton 1 0 0% −1.00
Ffos Las 1 0 0% −1.00
Exeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Towcester 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 8 0 0% −8.00
1m5f – 2m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Richard Johnson 3 0 0% −3.00
Paddy Brennan 2 0 0% −2.00
Chris Davies 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom O'Brien 1 0 0% −1.00
David England 1 0 0% −1.00
Robert L Butler 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 3 0 0% −3.00
2011 4 0 0% −4.00
2010 1 0 0% −1.00
2009 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 5 0 0% −5.00
Hurdle 3 0 0% −3.00
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 3 runs
21 Feb 12+23d Taunton Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 13 ran 4/13 23 11-12 95102A Richard Johnson 18/1
29 Jan 12+28d Ffos Las Lindleygroup.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 24f · Heavy · 11 ran PU/11 — 11-0 98— Richard Johnson 6/1
01 Jan 12+18d Exeter Billy Williams Memorial Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 23f · Soft · 8 ran 3/8 1½ 11-5 100109A Chris Davies 14/1
2011 · 4 runs
14 Dec 11+32d Newbury Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase Class 3 · 23.5f · Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-11 112— Richard Johnson 50/1
12 Nov 11+256d Uttoxeter Wychwood Hobgoblin Beginners' Chase Class 5 · 24f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 7/10 49 11-3 —109C Tom O'Brien 25/1
01 Mar 11+37d Leicester Ladbrokes.com Rutland Water Novices' Chase Class 3 · 22.5f · Heavy · 4 ran UR/4 — 10-12 —— David England 4/1
23 Jan 11+23d Towcester Gg.com Alerts Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 24.5f · Soft · 5 ran PU/5 — 11-0 —— Paddy Brennan 4/1
2010 · 1 run
31 Dec 10+671d Uttoxeter Music Magpie Beginners' Chase Class 4 · 24f · Heavy · 5 ran 2/5 9 11-0 —116B Paddy Brennan 28/1
2009 · 1 run
28 Feb 09 Newbury Totesportbingo.com Bumper Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 16.5f · Good · 11 ran 10/11 8 10-13 —89C Robert L Butler 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Not So Prudent won?
Not So Prudent (IRE) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2009 and 2012. Placed 2 times in total (22.2% of starts).
Who trained Not So Prudent?
Not So Prudent (IRE) was trained by Philip Hobbs on the most recent run on record, at Taunton on 21 February 2012.
Who is Not So Prudent's sire?
Not So Prudent (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Prudent Princess (GB), whose sire is Puissance.
What is Not So Prudent's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 21 February 2012. The highest on record is 112.
What is Not So Prudent's sire's record?
Flemensfirth (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.8% of 17,281 runs since Jan 2008 (1,594 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Not So Prudent's siblings?
Out of Prudent Princess (GB), Not So Prudent (IRE) has 4 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2009. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.