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Optimistic Belief (IRE)

5yo gelding (at last run, Feb 2023) · Last trainer Pat Phelan · Last owner Hugh J F Lang
by Make Believe (GB) out of Panglossian (IRE) (Barathea)
18 runs · 13 courses · from Oct 2020
As at 21 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 10 Feb 2023 — 1,349 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Feb 2023 Won at Killarney Last raced off OR 90
KTB Profile

Optimistic Belief (IRE) is 1 from 18. Hasn't won since Jul 2021. The win came on turf — 0 from 4 on the all-weather, and the win came on good or faster ground (0 from 9 on softer).

Based on 18 archived runs · updated 21 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Won on turf, 0 on AW Wins on good or faster
Official rating90↓ 1lb off peak
90 62–91

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 94 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Chepstow, 25 Oct 2022

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 94B · median 89
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft494B89—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f294B90.5—
1m5f – 2m291C77—
Flat 12 figures · best 89C · median 74
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good589C68—
Standard (AW)488B79.5—
Soft286C71.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f889C77.5—
1m – 1m1f487B66.5—

Of 18 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (2).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 18 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 110A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Chepstow, 25 Oct 2022 Official rating 90 at the last jumps run, 10 Feb 2023

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 51C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 21 Sep 2022 Official rating 62 at the last flat run, 21 Sep 2022

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 4 figures · best 110A · median 91.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good to Soft4110A91.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f2110A101.5—
1m5f – 2m290C87.5—
Flat 12 figures · best 81A · median 59.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
Good581A58—
Standard (AW)469A56—
Soft261C58.5—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 21 Oct 2025
1m2f – 1m4f881A61—
1m – 1m1f480A52—

Of 18 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 18 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 11.1% of 3,601 runs since Jan 2008 (297 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm5120%+8.9—
Good to Firm3414312.6%+1.5—
Good8729911.4%+0.31 from 5
Good to Soft4355612.9%+1.80 from 6
Soft6957110.2%−0.90 from 3
Heavy272259.2%−1.9—
Standard (AW)98110410.6%−0.50 from 4
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f8178.6%−2.5—
6f – 7f8479511.2%+0.1—
1m – 1m1f1,04810710.2%−0.90 from 4
1m2f – 1m4f7869412%+0.91 from 8
1m5f – 2m5367113.2%+2.10 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f230229.6%−1.50 from 2
2m5f – 3m6323.2%−7.90 from 1
Over 3m10110%−1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 21 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Panglossian (IRE) (Barathea)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them True Companion (IRE) (2 wins).

The wins came over 7f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
True Companion (IRE)3327f—
Yes Sir No Sir (IRE)20——
Rythm Of The Night (IRE)30——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Soft 6 0 0% −6.00
Good 5 1 20% +8.00
Standard (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Soft 3 0 0% −3.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 3 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 2 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 6 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Lingfield (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Kempton 2 0 0% −2.00
Sandown 2 0 0% −2.00
Killarney 2 1 50% +11.00
Fontwell 1 0 0% −1.00
Chepstow 1 0 0% −1.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Epsom Downs 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Ballinrobe 1 0 0% −1.00
Roscommon 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m2f – 1m4f 8 1 13% +5.00
1m – 1m1f 4 0 0% −4.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m1f – 2m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Leigh Roche 6 1 17% +7.00
Niall Houlihan 5 0 0% −5.00
Liam Keniry 2 0 0% −2.00
Shane Kelly 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Bradley 1 0 0% −1.00
Franny Norton 1 0 0% −1.00
Rhys Clutterbuck 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Houlihan 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 17 1 6% −4.00
Hood 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2023 1 0 0% −1.00
2022 9 0 0% −9.00
2021 7 1 14% +6.00
2020 1 0 0% −1.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 12 1 8% +1.00
Hurdle 6 0 0% −6.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
10 Feb 23+46d Kempton Visit Racingtv.com Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 21f · Good To Soft · 11 ran PU/11 — 10-5 90—— Niall Houlihan 12/1
26 Dec 22+62d Fontwell Claire Hogben Conditional Jockeys' Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 19f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 6/10 ½ 11-5 9187B93A Niall Houlihan 11/1
25 Oct 22+34d Chepstow Vickers.Bet Handicap Hurdle Class 5 · 19.5f · Good To Soft · 17 ran 2/17 3¾ 10-7 8994B110A Niall Houlihan 25/1
21 Sep 22+21d Kempton (AW) Try Our New Price Boosts At Unibet Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Standard To Slow · 14 ran 13/14 4¾ 9-13 6248C51C Shane Kelly 100/1
31 Aug 22+100d Lingfield (AW) Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 10/12 ½ 9-6 6487B48A Paddy Bradley 66/1
23 May 22+13d Windsor Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good · 10 ran 10/10 14 9-9 7030C46C Liam Keniry 66/1
10 May 22+21d Lingfield (AW) Follow AtTheRaces On Twitter Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Standard · 11 ran 8/11 2 9-7 7372A69A Liam Keniry 66/1
19 Apr 22+17d Epsom Downs Great Metropolitan Handicap Class 3 · 12f · Good · 9 ran 7/9 8 8-3 7768C50C Franny Norton 50/1
02 Apr 22+56d Lingfield (AW) BetYourWay At Betway Handicap Class 3 · 10f · Standard · 13 ran 10/13 shd 8-10 7988B61A Rhys Clutterbuck 100/1
05 Feb 22+40d Sandown Virgin Bet Novices' Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 3 · 16f · Good To Soft · 7 ran 6/7 4½ 10-2 —63C90C Sean Houlihan 150/1
27 Dec 21+24d Kempton Ladbrokes We Play Together Introductory Juvenile Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 16f · Soft · 10 ran PU/10 — 10-12 ——— Niall Houlihan 18/1
03 Dec 21+130d Sandown Pinsent Masons Introductory Juvenile Hurdle (GBB Race) Class 2 · 16f · Good To Soft · 9 ran 5/9 2¾ 11-0 —91C85C Niall Houlihan 11/1
26 Jul 21+13d Galway Eventus Handicap (60-90) 12.5f · Yielding To Soft · 13 ran 11/13 hd 9-7 8386C61C Leigh Roche 20/1
13 Jul 21+22d Killarney Muckross Maiden 11f · Good · 13 ran 1/13 9-7 7589C81A Leigh Roche 12/1
21 Jun 21+21d Ballinrobe Irish Stallion Farms EBF Maiden 9.5f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 ½ 9-7 —76A80A Leigh Roche 13/2
31 May 21+47d Roscommon Ivan Connaughton Auctioneers - No Sale No Fee Maiden 10f · Good To Yielding · 13 ran 3/13 hd 9-7 —83C81A Leigh Roche 80/1
14 Apr 21+192d Leopardstown Leopardstown Annual Members (C & G) Maiden (Plus 10) 10f · Good · 17 ran 17/17 9 9-7 —36C58C Leigh Roche 66/1
04 Oct 20 Killarney Foran Equine Irish EBF Auction Maiden (Plus 10) 8f · Yielding To Soft · 8 ran 6/8 ½ 8-13 —57A56A Leigh Roche 5/1

Quick answers

How many races has Optimistic Belief (IRE) won?
Optimistic Belief (IRE) won 1 of 18 archived starts between 2020 and 2023, a strike rate of 5.6%. Placed 3 times in total (16.7% of starts).
Who trained Optimistic Belief (IRE)?
Optimistic Belief (IRE) was trained by Pat Phelan on the most recent run on record, at Kempton on 10 February 2023.
Who is Optimistic Belief (IRE)'s sire?
Optimistic Belief (IRE) is by Make Believe (GB) out of Panglossian (IRE), whose sire is Barathea.
What going does Optimistic Belief (IRE) prefer?
Optimistic Belief (IRE) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Optimistic Belief (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 90, from the run on 10 February 2023. The highest on record is 91.
What is Optimistic Belief (IRE)'s sire's record?
Make Believe (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 11.1% of 3,601 runs since Jan 2008 (297 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Optimistic Belief (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Panglossian (IRE), Optimistic Belief (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: True Companion (IRE) (2). The wins came over 7f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from October 2020. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.