Horse profile
Philosophers Guest (IRE)
by Desert Prince (IRE) out of Gemini Diamond (IRE) (Desert King)
27 runs · 14 courses · from Sep 2008
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 22 Jul 2011 — 5,577 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jul 2011 · 11th of 13
Won at Ballinrobe
Last raced off OR 55
KTB Profile
Philosophers Guest (IRE) is 1 from 27. Hasn't won since Jun 2010. The win came on turf — 0 from 7 on the all-weather, and the win came on good or faster ground (0 from 12 on softer).
Based on 27 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance
Won on turf, 0 on AW
Wins on good or faster
Progeny in our archive
Produce record
As a dam, Philosophers Guest (IRE) has 2 produce in the archive, 1 winner — most wins La Dame En Rouge (FR) (1 win).
The wins came over 1m.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| La Dame En Rouge (FR) | 19 | 1 | 1m | — |
| Mizpah (IRE) | 5 | 0 | — | — |
- 1–27Wins / Runs
- 3.7%Strike rate
- 7 (25.9%)Placed
- −18.00£1 level staken=27 at SP
- 0.41Fair A/E n=27 · 0.31 incl. margin
- 59Highest OR
- 40dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
Official rating55↓ 4lb off peak
55
47–59
KTB Speed and Rating
KTB Speed
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Sire
Desert Prince (IRE)
Progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses).
Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 34 | 6 | 17.6% | +8.5 | 1 from 1 |
| Good to Firm | 486 | 46 | 9.5% | +0.4 | 0 from 4 |
| Good | 692 | 57 | 8.2% | −0.9 | 0 from 3 |
| Good to Soft | 328 | 31 | 9.5% | +0.4 | — |
| Soft | 386 | 39 | 10.1% | +1 | 0 from 10 |
| Heavy | 168 | 13 | 7.7% | −1.4 | 0 from 2 |
| Standard (AW) | 640 | 56 | 8.8% | −0.3 | 0 from 7 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 108 | 10 | 9.3% | +0.2 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 456 | 40 | 8.8% | −0.3 | 0 from 11 |
| 1m – 1m1f | 425 | 24 | 5.6% | −3.5 | 1 from 14 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 574 | 59 | 10.3% | +1.2 | 0 from 2 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 643 | 62 | 9.6% | +0.5 | — |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 388 | 39 | 10.1% | +1 | — |
| 2m5f – 3m | 125 | 13 | 10.4% | +1.3 | — |
| Over 3m | 15 | 1 | 6.7% | −2.4 | — |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
Dam
Gemini Diamond (IRE) (Desert King)
2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Zenith One (IRE) | 8 | 0 | — | — |
| Francisco Pizarro (IRE) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Soft | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Good to Firm | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Heavy | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Firm | 1 | 1 | 100% | +8.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dundalk (AW) | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Ballinrobe | 5 | 1 | 20% | +4.00 |
| Gowran Park | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Limerick | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Killarney | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Wexford | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Bellewstown | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Clonmel | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Sligo | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Roscommon | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Navan | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fairyhouse | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Naas | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1m – 1m1f | 14 | 1 | 7% | −5.00 |
| 6f – 7f | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| N G McCullagh | 12 | 0 | 0% | −12.00 |
| Danny Mullins | 9 | 1 | 11% | +0.00 |
| Shane Gorey | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Joseph O'Brien | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| John Fahy | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Pat Smullen | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fran Berry | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 26 | 1 | 4% | −17.00 |
| Tongue tie | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| 2010 | 9 | 1 | 11% | +0.00 |
| 2009 | 9 | 0 | 0% | −9.00 |
| 2008 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2011 · 6 runs | |||||||||
| 22 Jul 11+14d | Wexford | Belmont Handicap (47-60) | 11/13 | 1 | 9-9 | 55 | 45A | N G McCullagh | 8/1 |
| 08 Jul 11+7d | Gowran Park | jogforjockeys.ie Handicap (50-75) | 14/15 | nk | 8-10 | 56 | 46C | N G McCullagh | 13/2J |
| 01 Jul 11+10d | Bellewstown | www.citynorthhotel.com Handicap (47-70) (Div 1) | 2/15 | 1 | 8-13 | 55 | 77A | N G McCullagh | 10/1 |
| 21 Jun 11+10d | Ballinrobe | Coleman Quarries Handicap (47-60) | 5/16 | 2 | 9-12 | 58 | 67A | N G McCullagh | 12/1 |
| 11 Jun 11+16d | Limerick | Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (47-60) | 8/13 | 1¾ | 9-12 | 58 | 66A | Danny Mullins | 10/1 |
| 26 May 11+181d | Clonmel | Jossestown Handicap (47-65) | 5/15 | ¾ | 9-8 | 59 | 70A | N G McCullagh | 16/1 |
| 2010 · 9 runs | |||||||||
| 26 Nov 10+63d | Dundalk (AW) | www.dundalkstadium.com Handicap (47-65) (Div 1) | 14/14 | 30 | 9-3 | 59 | 37C | Joseph O'Brien | 7/1 |
| 24 Sep 10+31d | Wolverhampton (AW) | mobile.williamhill.com - New iPhone App Handicap | 2/11 | 1 | 9-0 | 55 | 76A | John Fahy | 12/1 |
| 24 Aug 10+36d | Sligo | Harvest Racing At Sligo Handicap (47-65) | 9/16 | shd | 9-2 | 55 | 55A | Danny Mullins | 5/1F |
| 19 Jul 10+4d | Ballinrobe | Mayo Advertiser Handicap (50-75) | 4/13 | 1¼ | 8-9 | 56 | 68A | Danny Mullins | 11/4J |
| 15 Jul 10+6d | Killarney | Dawn Flavoured Milk Handicap (47-60) | 6/14 | 1 | 9-6 | 55 | 60A | Danny Mullins | 7/2 |
| 09 Jul 10+17d | Gowran Park | Castlecomer Apprentice Handicap (47-60) | 2/12 | 1¾ | 9-9 | 55 | 81A | Danny Mullins | 4/1J |
| 22 Jun 10+70d | Ballinrobe | Derrinstown Stud Apprentice Handicap (47-60) | 1/8 | 9-6 | 47 | 76A | Danny Mullins | 8/1 | |
| 13 Apr 10+10d | Limerick | 5 After Five Handicap (47-60) | 12/15 | 1½ | 9-1 | 47 | 44A | N G McCullagh | 10/1 |
| 03 Apr 10+128d | Dundalk (AW) | Dundalk Stadium On Facebook Handicap (47-60) | 5/14 | ½ | 9-1 | 47 | 65A | N G McCullagh | 14/1 |
| 2009 · 9 runs | |||||||||
| 26 Nov 09+15d | Dundalk (AW) | www.dundalkstadium.com Handicap (47-65) (Div 2) | 7/13 | 1 | 8-12 | 49 | 57A | Pat Smullen | 7/1 |
| 11 Nov 09+84d | Dundalk (AW) | Crown Plaza Race & Stay Package Handicap (47-65) | 7/14 | hd | 8-11 | 49 | 58A | N G McCullagh | 10/1 |
| 19 Aug 09+9d | Killarney | Killarney Rugby Club Development Fund Handicap (47-65) | 6/13 | ¾ | 8-6 | 49 | 46A | Danny Mullins | 4/1J |
| 10 Aug 09+6d | Ballinrobe | Costello Mcdermott Handicap (47-65) | 3/11 | ½ | 8-10 | 49 | 58A | N G McCullagh | 4/1 |
| 04 Aug 09+14d | Roscommon | Boyle Handicap (47-65) | 4/15 | 1¾ | 8-7 | 49 | 65A | N G McCullagh | 9/2F |
| 21 Jul 09+39d | Ballinrobe | Cummins Homevalue Hardware Handicap (47-70) | 2/13 | hd | 8-4 | 47 | 68A | N G McCullagh | 5/1 |
| 12 Jun 09+29d | Navan | Christy Hughes Celebrating His 90th Birthday Handicap (47-65) | 5/18 | 2½ | 8-6 | 47 | 59A | N G McCullagh | 8/1 |
| 14 May 09+27d | Gowran Park | Early Bird Green Fees At Gowran Park Handicap (47-65) | 3/16 | 1½ | 8-3 | 47 | 59A | Shane Gorey | 11/2 |
| 17 Apr 09+180d | Dundalk (AW) | Cuchulainn Crystal Handicap (47-65) | 7/14 | 2½ | 8-3 | 47 | 46A | Shane Gorey | 20/1 |
| 2008 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 19 Oct 08+7d | Fairyhouse | Irish Stallion Farms Ebf Maiden | 9/16 | ½ | 8-12 | 47 | 39A | Fran Berry | 33/1 |
| 12 Oct 08+22d | Naas | Michael Bathe Memorial EBF (Fillies) Maiden Stakes | 18/20 | 1¾ | 8-7 | 50 | 39C | Danny Mullins | 33/1 |
| 20 Sep 08 | Dundalk (AW) | Carrickmacross Median Auction Maiden | 14/14 | 12 | 8-5 | 50 | 37C | Danny Mullins | 20/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Philosophers Guest won?
- Philosophers Guest (IRE) won 1 of 27 archived starts between 2008 and 2011, a strike rate of 3.7%. Placed 7 times in total (25.9% of starts).
- Who trained Philosophers Guest?
- Philosophers Guest (IRE) was trained by M J Grassick on the most recent run on record, at Wexford on 22 July 2011.
- Who is Philosophers Guest's sire?
- Philosophers Guest (IRE) is by Desert Prince (IRE) out of Gemini Diamond (IRE), whose sire is Desert King.
- What is Philosophers Guest's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 55, from the run on 22 July 2011. The highest on record is 59.
- What is Philosophers Guest's sire's record?
- Desert Prince (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.1% of 2,734 runs since Jan 2008 (178 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 5.6% from 425.
- Who are Philosophers Guest's siblings?
- Out of Gemini Diamond (IRE), Philosophers Guest (IRE) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.
- Has Philosophers Guest produced winners?
- As a dam, Philosophers Guest (IRE) has 2 produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: La Dame En Rouge (FR) (1). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.