Rhetorical (GB)
Rhetorical (GB) is yet to win from 23 starts, though has placed twice. Best effort: 2nd of 11 at Ludlow (Nov 2007).
- 0–23Wins / Runs
- 0%Strike rate
- 2 (8.7%)Placed
- −23.00£1 level staken=23 at SP
- 0.00Fair A/E n=23 · 0.00 incl. margin
- 80Highest OR
- 70dAvg between runs
A/E compares actual wins with what starting prices implied. "Fair" strips the bookmaker margin from the expectation, so favourites and longshots are judged on the same footing — figures near 1.00 mean the market priced this horse about right.
KTB Speed and Rating
No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.
KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast
Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.
Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.
Pedigree intelligence
Progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 384 runs since Jan 2008 (35 horses).
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 1 | 1 | 100% | +90.1 | 0 from 2 |
| Good to Firm | 39 | 4 | 10.3% | +0.4 | 0 from 5 |
| Good | 118 | 12 | 10.2% | +0.3 | 0 from 7 |
| Good to Soft | 66 | 5 | 7.6% | −2.3 | 0 from 2 |
| Soft | 68 | 7 | 10.3% | +0.4 | 0 from 3 |
| Heavy | 31 | 5 | 16.1% | +6.2 | — |
| Standard (AW) | 60 | 4 | 6.7% | −3.2 | 0 from 4 |
| Distance (all codes) | Runs | Wins | SR | vs sire | This horse |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Under 6f | 5 | 1 | 20% | +10.1 | — |
| 6f – 7f | 12 | 1 | 8.3% | −1.6 | — |
| 1m – 1m1f | 24 | 1 | 4.2% | −5.7 | — |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 60 | 9 | 15% | +5.1 | 0 from 3 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 65 | 5 | 7.7% | −2.2 | 0 from 6 |
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 87 | 10 | 11.5% | +1.6 | 0 from 8 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 96 | 11 | 11.5% | +1.6 | 0 from 3 |
| Over 3m | 35 | 0 | 0% | −9.9 | 0 from 3 |
Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast
6 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Strike Force (GB) (12 wins).
The wins came over 6f–1m4f; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Mighty (GB)).
| Produce | Runs | Wins | Win trips | Best grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Strike Force (GB) | 117 | 12 | 6f–1m2f | Class 4 |
| Magnitude (GB) | 55 | 5 | 7f–1m4f | Class 4 |
| Mighty (GB) | 12 | 3 | 1m2f | Class 2 |
| Rising Legend (GB) | 6 | 2 | 7f–1m | Class 2 |
| In Good Voice (GB) | 13 | 0 | — | — |
| Duet (GB) | 3 | 0 | — | — |
Record by conditions
| Going | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Good to Firm | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Standard (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Firm | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 10 | 0 | 0% | −10.00 |
| Class 5 | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| Class 7 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Class 6 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Course | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Fontwell | 5 | 0 | 0% | −5.00 |
| Lingfield (AW) | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Plumpton | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Folkestone | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Hereford | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Exeter | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Fakenham | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Ludlow | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Brighton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Lingfield | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Wincanton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Kempton | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Distance | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m1f – 2m4f | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| 1m5f – 2m | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
| Over 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2m5f – 3m | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 1m2f – 1m4f | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Robert L Butler | 16 | 0 | 0% | −16.00 |
| Liam Keniry | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| James Halliday | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Chris Catlin | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Andrew Elliott | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Brian Reilly | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Shane Kelly | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| None | 8 | 0 | 0% | −8.00 |
| Blinkers | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Tongue tie | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Cheekpieces | 4 | 0 | 0% | −4.00 |
| Tongue tie + visor | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| Tongue tie + cheekpieces | 1 | 0 | 0% | −1.00 |
| Season | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 | 3 | 0 | 0% | −3.00 |
| 2007 | 2 | 0 | 0% | −2.00 |
| 2006 | 7 | 0 | 0% | −7.00 |
| 2005 | 11 | 0 | 0% | −11.00 |
| Type | Runs | Wins | SR | £1 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 17 | 0 | 0% | −17.00 |
| Flat | 6 | 0 | 0% | −6.00 |
Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.
Form
| Date | Course | Race | Pos | Btn | Wgt | OR | KTB | Jockey | SP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2009 · 3 runs | |||||||||
| 01 Apr 09+78d | Exeter | Devon Handicap Hurdle | 8/9 | 4 | 10-11 | 78 | 76C | Robert L Butler | 10/1 |
| 13 Jan 09+12d | Folkestone | Pertemps People Development Conditionals' Handicap Hurdle | 8/15 | 4½ | 11-4 | 80 | 85C | James Halliday | 14/1 |
| 01 Jan 09+402d | Fakenham | Heritage House Selling Handicap Hurdle | 3/7 | ¾ | 11-4 | 80 | 85B | Robert L Butler | 5/2F |
| 2007 · 2 runs | |||||||||
| 26 Nov 07+21d | Ludlow | Concha Y Toro Wines Selling Hurdle | 2/11 | 2 | 10-9 | 80 | 103C | Robert L Butler | 7/1 |
| 05 Nov 07+504d | Plumpton | Bluebird Community Partnership Conditionals' Handicap Hurdle | 5/14 | 2½ | 10-0 | 64 | 80C | Robert L Butler | 5/1 |
| 2006 · 7 runs | |||||||||
| 19 Jun 06+13d | Hereford | Letheby & Christopher Novices' Handicap Hurdle | PU/13 | — | 9-9 | 68 | — | Robert L Butler | 50/1 |
| 06 Jun 06+9d | Fontwell | spreadfair.com Argus Appeal Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 7/16 | 3½ | 10-4 | 70 | 74C | Robert L Butler | 25/1 |
| 28 May 06+23d | Fontwell | Mccarthy & Stone Leading Retirement Builders Handicap Hurdle | 8/11 | 8 | 9-9 | 70 | 71C | Robert L Butler | 40/1 |
| 05 May 06+5d | Fontwell | BGC Handicap Hurdle | 11/15 | 12 | 10-10 | 74 | 71C | Robert L Butler | 25/1 |
| 30 Apr 06+61d | Brighton | Inbev UK Beck's Vier Handicap | 12/12 | 23 | 8-5 | 44 | 50C | Chris Catlin | 80/1 |
| 28 Feb 06+20d | Lingfield (AW) | First Past The Post At Betdirect Apprentice Handicap | 10/10 | 6 | 8-1 | 30 | 22C | Andrew Elliott | 100/1 |
| 08 Feb 06+80d | Lingfield (AW) | Claiming Stakes | 10/10 | 30 | 8-13 | 30 | 36C | Liam Keniry | 100/1 |
| 2005 · 11 runs | |||||||||
| 20 Nov 05+14d | Plumpton | Plumpton Racecourse Novices' Handicap Hurdle | PU/9 | — | 10-10 | 76 | — | Robert L Butler | 20/1 |
| 06 Nov 05+8d | Hereford | Skyways Worldwide Handicap Hurdle | PU/17 | — | 10-5 | 78 | — | Robert L Butler | 22/1 |
| 29 Oct 05+23d | Lingfield | Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 9/15 | ¾ | 9-5 | 78 | 61C | Robert L Butler | 16/1 |
| 06 Oct 05+14d | Wincanton | Mirage Signs Handicap Hurdle | 3/5 | 4 | 10-5 | 78 | 85C | Robert L Butler | 14/1 |
| 22 Sep 05+19d | Fontwell | 3663 First For Food Conditionals' Novices' Handicap Hurdle | 2/9 | ½ | 9-9 | 74 | 73C | Robert L Butler | 66/1 |
| 03 Sep 05+138d | Folkestone | Nigel Collison Fuels Banded Stakes | 10/13 | 1¼ | 9-7 | 35 | 33C | Brian Reilly | 50/1 |
| 18 Apr 05+18d | Plumpton | Juvenile Novices' Hurdle | PU/6 | — | 9-12 | 79 | — | Robert L Butler | 200/1 |
| 31 Mar 05+57d | Lingfield (AW) | Barry's Easter Banded Stakes | 11/15 | 2 | 8-12 | 40 | — | Shane Kelly | 33/1 |
| 02 Feb 05+9d | Lingfield (AW) | Banded Stakes | 12/13 | 1¾ | 8-13 | 45 | — | Liam Keniry | 66/1 |
| 24 Jan 05+9d | Fontwell | Juvenile Novices' Hurdle | PU/10 | — | 9-12 | 79 | — | Robert L Butler | 100/1 |
| 15 Jan 05 | Kempton | Juvenile Novices' Hurdle | 11/14 | 1½ | 9-10 | — | 60C | Robert L Butler | 100/1 |
Quick answers
- How many races has Rhetorical won?
- Rhetorical (GB) has yet to win, from 23 archived starts between 2005 and 2009. Placed 2 times in total (8.7% of starts).
- Who trained Rhetorical?
- Rhetorical (GB) was trained by Jim Best on the most recent run on record, at Exeter on 1 April 2009.
- Who is Rhetorical's sire?
- Rhetorical (GB) is by Unfuwain (USA) out of Miswaki Belle (USA), whose sire is Miswaki.
- What is Rhetorical's official rating?
- The most recent official rating on record is 78, from the run on 1 April 2009. The highest on record is 80.
- What is Rhetorical's sire's record?
- Unfuwain (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.9% of 384 runs since Jan 2008 (35 horses), Flat and jumps together.
- Who are Rhetorical's siblings?
- Out of Miswaki Belle (USA), Rhetorical (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Strike Force (GB) (12). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Mighty (GB)). The wins came over 6f–1m4f. As at Oct 2026.