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Horse profile

So Determined (IRE)

10yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2011) · Last trainer J J Lambe · Last owner Ms Fiona Mcstay
by Soviet Star (USA) out of Memory Green (USA) (Green Forest)
34 runs · 15 courses · from Feb 2005
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 7 Aug 2011 — 5,554 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2011 Won at Downpatrick Last raced off OR 95
KTB Profile

So Determined (IRE) is 1 from 34. Hasn't won since Jul 2006. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 7 on softer). Last raced off 95, 21lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 34 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster OR ↓ 21lb off peak
Official rating95↓ 21lb off peak
95 57–116

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 123A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Down Royal, 27 Aug 2010 Official rating 95 at the last jumps run, 7 Aug 2011

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 51C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Navan, 10 Oct 2007 Official rating 58 at the last flat run, 10 Oct 2007

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 20 figures · best 124A · median 106.5
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm7123A111—
Good5118A112—
Firm4124A111—
Soft3103A89—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f10124A112.5—
1m5f – 2m8107C95—
2m5f – 3m2118A110.5—
Flat 7 figures · best 59C · median 47
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Good to Firm559C51—
Heavy1———
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m459C51—
1m2f – 1m4f247C43—
1m – 1m1f1———

Of 34 runs looked at, 7 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (7).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 27 figures from 34 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Soviet Star (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 2,621 runs since Jan 2008 (171 horses).

Weakest on heavy going: 5% from 160. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5.6% from 320.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm36411.1%+2.40 from 5
Good to Firm425378.7%01 from 15
Good594488.1%−0.60 from 7
Good to Soft235177.2%−1.50 from 2
Soft378287.4%−1.30 from 4
Heavy16085%−3.70 from 1
Standard (AW)7938711%+2.3—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f134118.2%−0.5—
6f – 7f5475510.1%+1.4—
1m – 1m1f5125310.4%+1.70 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f502469.2%+0.50 from 2
1m5f – 2m497387.6%−1.10 from 13
2m1f – 2m4f320185.6%−3.11 from 15
2m5f – 3m10387.8%−0.90 from 3
Over 3m600%−8.7—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Memory Green (USA) (Green Forest)

3 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Forgery (IRE) (1 win).

The wins came over 1m; the highest grade won is Class 2 (Forgery (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Forgery (IRE)611mClass 2
Database (IRE)211mClass 5
Forum Chris (IRE)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 15 1 7% −12.50
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Soft 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Down Royal 8 0 0% −8.00
Downpatrick 4 1 25% −1.50
Navan 4 0 0% −4.00
Roscommon 3 0 0% −3.00
Curragh 3 0 0% −3.00
Wexford 2 0 0% −2.00
Fairyhouse 2 0 0% −2.00
Bellewstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Gowran Park 1 0 0% −1.00
Stratford 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00
Sligo 1 0 0% −1.00
Limerick 1 0 0% −1.00
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 15 1 7% −12.50
1m5f – 2m 13 0 0% −13.00
2m5f – 3m 3 0 0% −3.00
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% −2.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
E J O'Connell 6 0 0% −6.00
Andrew J McNamara 4 1 25% −1.50
Robbie Colgan 2 0 0% −2.00
Barry Geraghty 2 0 0% −2.00
R Walsh 2 0 0% −2.00
R M Burke 2 0 0% −2.00
Brian Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00
Graham Watters 1 0 0% −1.00
D J Casey 1 0 0% −1.00
A P McCoy 1 0 0% −1.00
L McNiff 1 0 0% −1.00
Paul Carberry 1 0 0% −1.00
Damien Moran 1 0 0% −1.00
Shane Gorey 1 0 0% −1.00
A E Lynch 1 0 0% −1.00
Michael Hussey 1 0 0% −1.00
Martin Lane 1 0 0% −1.00
Willie Supple 1 0 0% −1.00
W J Lee 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Johnson 1 0 0% −1.00
James O'Farrell 1 0 0% −1.00
Tommy Treacy 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 26 1 4% −23.50
Tongue tie 8 0 0% −8.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 5 0 0% −5.00
2010 5 0 0% −5.00
2009 5 0 0% −5.00
2007 9 0 0% −9.00
2006 6 1 17% −3.50
2005 4 0 0% −4.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 19 1 5% −16.50
Chase 8 0 0% −8.00
Flat 7 0 0% −7.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
07 Aug 11+15d Downpatrick Keeping It Country Handicap Hurdle (80-95) 23f · Good To Firm · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-12 95— Robbie Colgan 14/1
23 Jul 11+36d Wexford Poolcourt Ltd. Beginners Chase (Div 1) 19f · Good · 12 ran PU/12 — 11-12 112— Robbie Colgan 5/1
17 Jun 11+19d Down Royal Fred J Malcolm Beginners Chase 20f · Good To Yielding · 16 ran F/16 — 11-12 114— Brian Hughes 14/1
29 May 11+27d Downpatrick Toals Bookmakers Bet On Irish Lotto Beginners Chase 23f · Good To Firm · 11 ran 4/11 8 11-5 116103A Graham Watters 7/1
02 May 11+219d Down Royal Sean Graham Bookmakers Beginners Chase 20f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 2/6 12 11-7 —113B E J O'Connell 3/1
25 Sep 10+29d Navan Kells Beginners Chase 20f · Yielding · 17 ran F/17 — 11-7 —— E J O'Connell 12/1
27 Aug 10+24d Down Royal Mission To Seafarers Charity Beginners Chase 20f · Good To Firm · 12 ran 2/12 1 11-7 —123A E J O'Connell 13/2
03 Aug 10+30d Roscommon Connaught Beginners Chase 21f · Good · 15 ran 2/15 hd 11-7 —118A E J O'Connell 16/1
04 Jul 10+16d Bellewstown 'tote Trifecta Rollover' Handicap Hurdle (80-102) (Div 2) 20f · Good To Firm · 14 ran 5/14 ½ 11-6 101111A E J O'Connell 7/1
18 Jun 10+259d Down Royal Down Royal Punters Pack Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 20f · Firm · 19 ran 2/19 hd 11-1 95124A E J O'Connell 20/1
02 Oct 09+10d Gowran Park Thomastown Hurdle 20f · Good To Firm · 10 ran PU/10 — 11-12 95— D J Casey 16/1
22 Sep 09+25d Stratford BBC Coventry And Warwickshire Breakfast Show Handicap Hurdle (Div 1) Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 7/8 30 11-2 10577C A P McCoy 17/2
28 Aug 09+81d Down Royal Duke Of York Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 16f · Yielding · 20 ran 10/20 5 11-0 9689C L McNiff 14/1
08 Jun 09+10d Roscommon Sherry Fitzgerald P. Burke Auctioneers Handicap Hurdle (81-109) 20f · Firm · 16 ran 3/16 2 11-0 95116A Paul Carberry 10/1
29 May 09+594d Down Royal Nokia Opportunity Handicap Hurdle (80-102) 20f · Yielding · 19 ran 8/19 ½ 11-1 95103A Damien Moran 16/1
13 Oct 07+3d Fairyhouse Rathbeggan Handicap Hurdle (74-109) 18f · Good · 16 ran 3/16 4 11-5 100118C Barry Geraghty 20/1
10 Oct 07+11d Navan October Maiden 16f · Good To Firm · 21 ran 9/21 4½ 9-4 5851C Shane Gorey 20/1
29 Sep 07+29d Navan Navan Supporters Beginners Chase 17f · Good To Firm · 15 ran BD/15 — 11-12 —— A E Lynch 20/1
31 Aug 07+61d Wexford tote Online Betting Handicap (50-70) 16f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 15/15 1 9-2 5851C Michael Hussey 20/1
01 Jul 07+36d Curragh Waterford Crystal Handicap (50-80) 16f · Soft To Heavy · 28 ran 17/28 1¾ 8-2 6044C Martin Lane 25/1
26 May 07+29d Curragh (IRE) boylepoker.com Handicap 12f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 14/18 2 8-11 6247C Willie Supple 11/1
27 Apr 07+12d Punchestown Flogas Ireland Novice Hurdle 16f · Good · 24 ran 19/24 3½ 11-12 100101C Andrew J McNamara 10/1
15 Apr 07+7d Curragh Peter Byrne Kildare Race 16f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 4/16 1 9-0 5759C W J Lee 66/1
08 Apr 07+242d Fairyhouse Aramark Novice H'cap H'dle (81-123) 16f · Good · 24 ran BD/24 — 10-10 100— Andrew J McNamara 25/1
09 Aug 06+27d Sligo John Perry Novice Hurdle 20f · Good · 9 ran 2/9 3½ 11-12 100112C R Walsh 7/4
13 Jul 06+4d Downpatrick Downpatrick Maiden Hurdle 18f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 1/15 11-3 98112C Andrew J McNamara 6/4F
09 Jul 06+16d Limerick Perks Funfair At Limerick Maiden Hurdle 16f · Good To Firm · 18 ran 4/18 1½ 11-12 96107C Andrew J McNamara 10/1
23 Jun 06+6d Down Royal Asidua Maiden Hurdle 16f · Firm · 20 ran 3/20 1 11-3 96106C R Walsh 7/1
17 Jun 06+7d Navan Magnificent Seven Handicap (50-80) 10f · Firm · 16 ran 13/16 1½ 9-0 6239C R M Burke 10/1
10 Jun 06+345d Curragh A.E.S. Maiden 8f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 7/16 1 10-2 6240C R M Burke 33/1
30 Jun 05+17d Perth Gg.com Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 15 ran 8/15 13 10-9 —74C Richard Johnson 9/1
13 Jun 05+93d Roscommon Elphin Maiden Hurdle 16f · Firm · 18 ran 2/18 ½ 11-5 87106C Barry Geraghty 10/3F
12 Mar 05+24d Downpatrick Bar-one Racing Aertel Pages Maiden Hurdle 18.5f · Good · 15 ran 2/15 3½ 10-4 7891C James O'Farrell 25/1
16 Feb 05 Down Royal Bank Of Ireland Business & Corporate Banking Maiden Hurdle 16f · Soft · 18 ran 13/18 12 11-2 —89C Tommy Treacy 33/1

Quick answers

How many races has So Determined (IRE) won?
So Determined (IRE) won 1 of 34 archived starts between 2005 and 2011, a strike rate of 2.9%. Placed 11 times in total (32.4% of starts).
Who trained So Determined (IRE)?
So Determined (IRE) was trained by J J Lambe on the most recent run on record, at Downpatrick on 7 August 2011.
Who is So Determined (IRE)'s sire?
So Determined (IRE) is by Soviet Star (USA) out of Memory Green (USA), whose sire is Green Forest.
What going does So Determined (IRE) prefer?
So Determined (IRE) has the best record on good to firm going: 1 win from 15 starts (6.7%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is So Determined (IRE)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 95, from the run on 7 August 2011. The highest on record is 116.
What is So Determined (IRE)'s sire's record?
Soviet Star (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.7% of 2,621 runs since Jan 2008 (171 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest on heavy going: 5% from 160. Weakest over 2m1f – 2m4f (all codes): 5.6% from 320.
Who are So Determined (IRE)'s siblings?
Out of Memory Green (USA), So Determined (IRE) has 3 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Forgery (IRE) (1). Highest grade won: Class 2 (Forgery (IRE)). The wins came over 1m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from February 2005. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.