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Horse profile

So You Thought (USA)

5yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2019) · Last trainer Simon West · Last owner James Douglas Gordon
by So You Think (NZ) out of Lady Of Akita (USA) (Fantastic Light)
16 runs · 14 courses · from Apr 2017
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 14 Nov 2019 — 2,533 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2019 · 8th of 11 Won at Navan Headgear returns LTO
KTB Profile

So You Thought (USA) is 1 from 16. Hasn't won since Apr 2017. The win came on good or faster ground (0 from 11 on softer).

Based on 16 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster OR ↓ 29lb off peak
Official rating57↓ 29lb off peak
57 57–86

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 112 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Hamilton, 12 Jun 2019

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Flat 15 figures · best 112A · median 77
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft4107C75.5—
Heavy499C72—
Good3112A87—
Good to Soft277B73—
Standard (AW)291C66—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f7107C90—
1m2f – 1m4f6112A63.5—
6f – 7f265C61.5—

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 16 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 94C the best of the last 1 rated run · Sedgefield, 14 Nov 2019

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 73A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Hamilton, 12 Jun 2019 Official rating 57 at the last flat run, 30 Oct 2019

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 1 figure · too few for a breakdown
Flat 15 figures · best 92A · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Soft488A69.5—
Heavy492A84.5—
Good392A76—
Good to Soft285A73.5—
Standard (AW)264C57—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f792A86—
1m2f – 1m4f676A63—
6f – 7f283A78.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 16 figures from 16 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
So You Think (NZ)

Progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 1,151 runs since Jan 2008 (108 horses).

Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 5.3% from 131.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm200%−9.6—
Good to Firm751013.3%+3.7—
Good312309.6%01 from 3
Good to Soft1501510%+0.40 from 2
Soft237229.3%−0.30 from 5
Heavy9755.2%−4.40 from 4
Standard (AW)2782810.1%+0.50 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f900%−9.6—
6f – 7f13175.3%−4.30 from 2
1m – 1m1f209157.2%−2.41 from 7
1m2f – 1m4f3023210.6%+10 from 6
1m5f – 2m3023712.3%+2.7—
2m1f – 2m4f121108.3%−1.30 from 1
2m5f – 3m6058.3%−1.3—
Over 3m17423.5%+13.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Lady Of Akita (USA) (Fantastic Light)

2 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Jialing River (FR)80——
La Dauphine (FR)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Heavy 4 0 0% −4.00
Good 3 1 33% +0.25
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Leopardstown 2 0 0% −2.00
Navan 2 1 50% +1.25
Sedgefield 1 0 0% −1.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00
Hamilton 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Chester 1 0 0% −1.00
Cork 1 0 0% −1.00
Listowel 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh (IRE) 1 0 0% −1.00
Galway 1 0 0% −1.00
Curragh 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 7 1 14% −3.75
1m2f – 1m4f 6 0 0% −6.00
6f – 7f 2 0 0% −2.00
2m1f – 2m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Pat Smullen 5 1 20% −1.75
Andrew Elliott 4 0 0% −4.00
John Kington 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Eireann Cagney 1 0 0% −1.00
Jason Hart 1 0 0% −1.00
Sean Davis 1 0 0% −1.00
Ben Coen 1 0 0% −1.00
Declan McDonogh 1 0 0% −1.00
Leigh Roche 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 1 17% −2.75
Visor 5 0 0% −5.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00
Tongue tie + blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2019 5 0 0% −5.00
2018 5 0 0% −5.00
2017 6 1 17% −2.75

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Flat 15 1 7% −11.75
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
14 Nov 19+15d Sedgefield MansionBet Faller Insurance Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 17f · Soft · 11 ran 8/11 29 10-12 —46C94C John Kington 33/1
30 Oct 19+130d Nottingham MansionBet Offer Deposit Limits Handicap (Gentleman Amateur Riders) (Div 2) Class 6 · 10f · Soft · 10 ran 6/10 2 10-13 5743C55C Mr Eireann Cagney 11/1
22 Jun 19+10d Haydock Join Racing TV Now Handicap Class 5 · 10.5f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 7/8 ¾ 9-7 6077B62A Andrew Elliott 8/1
12 Jun 19+15d Hamilton Watch Racing TV In HD Handicap Class 6 · 11f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 2 9-3 61112A73A Andrew Elliott 16/1
28 May 19+242d Southwell (AW) MansionBet Proud To Support British Racing Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 8 ran 7/8 27 9-7 6541C64C Andrew Elliott 33/1
28 Sep 18+13d Newcastle (AW) Arnold Clark Shiremoor Ford Handicap Class 4 · 8f · Standard · 14 ran 13/14 2 8-13 7091C50C Jason Hart 33/1
15 Sep 18+133d Chester chesterBET Handicap Class 4 · 10.5f · Soft · 11 ran 11/11 4 9-4 7461A54A Andrew Elliott 16/1
05 May 18+19d Cork Cork Apprentice Handicap 8f · Soft To Heavy · 14 ran 5/14 ½ 9-11 7899C92A Sean Davis 8/1
16 Apr 18+9d Leopardstown Spin 1038 Finale Handicap (50-80) 7f · Heavy · 14 ran 7/14 ¾ 9-7 8065C83A Ben Coen 6/1
07 Apr 18+204d Navan Bective Restaurant At Navan Racecourse Handicap 8f · Heavy · 8 ran 4/8 1½ 9-8 8079A86A Declan McDonogh 5/1
15 Sep 17+19d Listowel Bank Of Ireland Handicap 7f · Heavy · 9 ran 6/9 2¼ 9-1 8558C74A Pat Smullen 9/2
27 Aug 17+25d Curragh (IRE) Tote Irish Cambridgeshire (Premier Handicap) 8f · Yielding · 27 ran 4/27 shd 8-6 8590C84A Leigh Roche 7/1F
02 Aug 17+33d Galway Win Big With Tote Handicap 8.5f · Soft · 7 ran 2/7 ½ 8-13 84107C88A Pat Smullen 3/1F
30 Jun 17+67d Curragh Silken Thomas & Lock 13 Handicap (60-100) 10f · Good · 7 ran 5/7 shd 8-13 8666A76A Pat Smullen 13/2
24 Apr 17+16d Navan www.navanracecourse.ie Median Auction Maiden 8f · Good · 15 ran 1/15 9-5 —87C92A Pat Smullen 9/4F
08 Apr 17 Leopardstown Leopardstown 'summer Bundle' Maiden 8f · Good To Yielding · 14 ran 3/14 1¼ 9-5 —69C85A Pat Smullen 12/1

Quick answers

How many races has So You Thought (USA) won?
So You Thought (USA) won 1 of 16 archived starts between 2017 and 2019, a strike rate of 6.3%. Placed 4 times in total (25% of starts).
Who trained So You Thought (USA)?
So You Thought (USA) was trained by Simon West on the most recent run on record, at Sedgefield on 14 November 2019.
Who is So You Thought (USA)'s sire?
So You Thought (USA) is by So You Think (NZ) out of Lady Of Akita (USA), whose sire is Fantastic Light.
What going does So You Thought (USA) prefer?
So You Thought (USA) has the best record on good going: 1 win from 3 starts (33.3%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is So You Thought (USA)'s official rating?
So You Thought (USA)'s highest official rating on record is 86.
What is So You Thought (USA)'s sire's record?
So You Think (NZ)'s progeny in our archive have won 9.6% of 1,151 runs since Jan 2008 (108 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 6f – 7f (all codes): 5.3% from 131.
Who are So You Thought (USA)'s siblings?
Out of Lady Of Akita (USA), So You Thought (USA) has 2 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from April 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.