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Socrates (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Sep 2017) · Last trainer Daniel Kubler · Last owner Wilbart Racing
9 runs · 5 courses · from Sep 2016
As at 14 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 26 Sep 2017 — 3,305 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Sep 2017 · 8th of 11 Last raced off OR 50
KTB Profile

Socrates (GB) is yet to win from 9 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 12 at Kempton (AW) (Aug 2017). Last raced off 50, 16lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 14 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 16lb off peak
Official rating50↓ 16lb off peak
50 50–66

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 85 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton (AW), 23 Aug 2017

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was.

Flat 8 figures · best 85B · median 60
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)485B61—
Good to Firm257A56—
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f485B61—
1m – 1m1f374A57—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 8 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 66A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kempton (AW), 23 Aug 2017 Official rating 50 at the last run, 26 Sep 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race.

Flat 9 figures · best 70A · median 52
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)470A59.5—
Good to Firm354A49—
Good1———
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 14 Oct 2025
6f – 7f570A53—
1m – 1m1f354A52—
1m2f – 1m4f1———

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 1,368 runs since Jan 2008 (103 horses).

Strongest on good to firm going: 11.7% from 247. Weakest on good to soft going: 4.7% from 149. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 4.1% from 271.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm700%−7.8—
Good to Firm2472911.7%+3.90 from 3
Good281248.5%+0.70 from 1
Good to Soft14974.7%−3.10 from 1
Soft146149.6%+1.8—
Heavy4237.1%−0.7—
Standard (AW)496306%−1.80 from 4
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f9577.4%−0.4—
6f – 7f453378.2%+0.40 from 5
1m – 1m1f271114.1%−3.70 from 3
1m2f – 1m4f3573810.6%+2.80 from 1
1m5f – 2m138118%+0.2—
2m1f – 2m4f4524.4%−3.4—
2m5f – 3m9111.1%+3.3—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 14 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam

2 siblings in the archive, 2 winners — best of them Lisa's Legacy (GB) (3 wins).

The wins came over 1m2f–2m4f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Lisa's Legacy (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Lisa's Legacy (GB)4231m2f–2m4fClass 5
Who'sthedaddy (GB)1521m2fClass 6

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Good 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 5 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kempton (AW) 3 0 0% −3.00
Salisbury 3 0 0% −3.00
Chelmsford City (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Windsor 1 0 0% −1.00
Ascot 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 5 0 0% −5.00
1m – 1m1f 3 0 0% −3.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
George Downing 2 0 0% −2.00
Timmy Murphy 2 0 0% −2.00
William Cox 1 0 0% −1.00
Rob Hornby 1 0 0% −1.00
Tyler Saunders 1 0 0% −1.00
Richard Kingscote 1 0 0% −1.00
Luke Morris 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 7 0 0% −7.00
Blinkers 2 0 0% −2.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2017 6 0 0% −6.00
2016 3 0 0% −3.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
26 Sep 17+34d Chelmsford City (AW) Bet toteplacepot At betfred.com Apprentice Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 8/11 3¾ 9-0 5061A48A William Cox 5/1
23 Aug 17+16d Kempton (AW) Racing Uk In Hd Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 12 ran 3/12 ¾ 9-0 5185B66A George Downing 20/1
07 Aug 17+23d Salisbury Dartmouth General Contractors Ltd Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 8f · Good · 11 ran 7/11 3¼ 9-0 5574A52A Rob Hornby 16/1
15 Jul 17+27d Salisbury Party Continues At The Chapel Nightclub Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Firm · 9 ran 5/9 17 9-7 6055C49C George Downing 16/1
18 Jun 17+20d Salisbury Shadwell Stud Racing Excellence Apprentice Handicap (Whips Can be Carried But Not Used) Class 6 · 8f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 6/8 ½ 9-5 6357A54A Tyler Saunders 25/1
29 May 17+187d Windsor Caribbean Night 5th June Handicap (Div 2) Class 5 · 8f · Good To Soft · 10 ran 9/10 17 9-3 6621C39C Richard Kingscote 16/1
23 Nov 16+7d Kempton (AW) 32Red.com/British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 6f · Standard To Slow · 11 ran 8/11 2¼ 9-5 —61A53A Timmy Murphy 33/1
16 Nov 16+74d Kempton (AW) 32Red Casino/ebfstallions.com Maiden Stakes (Div 1) Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 13 ran 6/13 ½ 9-5 —59B70A Timmy Murphy 100/1
03 Sep 16 Ascot Sodexo British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Stakes (Plus 10) Class 4 · 7f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 13/13 22 9-5 ——45C Luke Morris 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has Socrates (GB) won?
Socrates (GB) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2016 and 2017. Placed 1 time in total (11.1% of starts).
Who trained Socrates (GB)?
Socrates (GB) was trained by Daniel Kubler on the most recent run on record, at Chelmsford City (AW) on 26 September 2017.
Who is Socrates (GB)'s sire?
Socrates (GB) is by Dick Turpin (IRE) out of Lisathedaddy (GB), whose sire is Darnay.
What is Socrates (GB)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 50, from the run on 26 September 2017. The highest on record is 66.
What is Socrates (GB)'s sire's record?
Dick Turpin (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.8% of 1,368 runs since Jan 2008 (103 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest on good to firm going: 11.7% from 247. Weakest on good to soft going: 4.7% from 149. Weakest over 1m – 1m1f (all codes): 4.1% from 271.
Who are Socrates (GB)'s siblings?
Out of Lisathedaddy (GB), Socrates (GB) has 2 other produce in our archive, 2 of them winners. Most wins: Lisa's Legacy (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Lisa's Legacy (GB)). The wins came over 1m2f–2m4f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from September 2016. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.