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Horse profile

The Butcher Said (IRE)

8yo gelding (at last run, Jun 2021) · Last trainer Olly Murphy · Last owner Mcneill Family
by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Georgina Valleya (IRE) (King's Theatre)
21 runs · 17 courses · from Apr 2017
As at 5 Nov 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 6 Jun 2021 — 1,978 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Jun 2021 6 wins · 6 courses Last raced off OR 135
KTB Profile

The Butcher Said (IRE) is 6 from 21. Hasn't won since Sep 2020. Every win has come on good or faster ground (0 from 9 on softer).

Based on 21 archived runs · updated 5 Nov 2026
KTB at a glance Wins on good or faster
Official rating135↓ 4lb off peak
135 115–139

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

Best recent Speed 122 the best of the last 3 graded (A or B) runs · Kempton, 14 Mar 2020

How fast the horse ran, as points against the day-corrected standard time for its course and distance: 100 is the median GB Class 4 handicap winner on that code; one point is 0.1% of the standard time. A, B or C is how much the day's card could tell us, not how good the run was. What this means →

Jumps 17 figures · best 130A · median 100
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good10130A96—
Soft4125B92—
Good to Soft2126A124—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m12127C92—
2m1f – 2m4f3130A123—
1m5f – 2m2126A125.5—

Of 21 runs looked at, 4 have no figure: obstacles omitted — the race ran a shortened course (2) · did not complete (1) · not enough races on the card to set the day (under 4) (1).

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 17 figures from 21 runs · as at 3 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 129A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Ayr, 18 Apr 2021 Official rating 135 at the last jumps run, 6 Jun 2021

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 85A the best of the last 1 rated run · Punchestown, 25 Apr 2017

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code — its best recent day. The KTB Rating on a racecard is a different reading of the same figures: the level the horse has been running to, an average of up to its last six runs with the latest counting most, so the two can differ. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 19 figures · best 142A · median 125
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
Good11136C129—
Soft5124A109—
Good to Soft2142A128.5—
Heavy1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 5 Nov 2025
2m5f – 3m13142A128—
2m1f – 2m4f4134B123—
1m5f – 2m2115A112—
Flat 1 figure · too few for a breakdown

Of 21 runs looked at, 1 has no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (1).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 20 figures from 21 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Robin Des Champs (FR)

Progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,007 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm4125%+11.7—
Good to Firm71912.7%−0.6—
Good1,07215914.8%+1.56 from 12
Good to Soft76210213.4%+0.10 from 3
Soft1,36515311.2%−2.10 from 5
Heavy71710414.5%+1.20 from 1
Standard (AW)16318.8%+5.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
1m – 1m1f100%−13.3—
1m2f – 1m4f13215.4%+2.1—
1m5f – 2m1,04514413.8%+0.50 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f1,54920813.4%+0.11 from 4
2m5f – 3m1,12513812.3%−15 from 14
Over 3m2743914.2%+0.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 5 Nov 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Georgina Valleya (IRE) (King's Theatre)

5 siblings in the archive, 4 winners — best of them Carrarea (IRE) (4 wins).

The wins came over 1m7½f–3m; the highest grade won is Class 4 (Carrarea (IRE)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Carrarea (IRE)2441m7½f–2m½fClass 4
Jerry From Kerry (IRE)1222m–2m7½f—
Moonshine Girl (IRE)2722m6½f–3m—
Georginas Jet (IRE)1912m2f—
Butchers Daughter (IRE)40——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 12 6 50% +1.30
Soft 5 0 0% −5.00
Good to Soft 3 0 0% −3.00
Heavy 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 2 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 3 5 3 60% −0.70
Class 1 4 0 0% −4.00
Class 4 4 2 50% +1.25
Class 5 2 1 50% +1.75

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Cheltenham 3 0 0% −3.00
Kempton 2 0 0% −2.00
Bangor-on-Dee 2 1 50% −0.17
Perth 1 0 0% −1.00
Ayr 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Newcastle 1 0 0% −1.00
Uttoxeter 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell 1 1 100% +0.36
Newton Abbot 1 1 100% +0.11
Fontwell 1 1 100% +1.50
Cartmel 1 1 100% +1.75
Huntingdon 1 1 100% +2.75
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Leicester 1 0 0% −1.00
Sandown 1 0 0% −1.00
Punchestown 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m5f – 3m 14 5 36% −4.45
2m1f – 2m4f 4 1 25% −0.25
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
A P Heskin 17 6 35% −3.70
Aidan Coleman 2 0 0% −2.00
Fergus Gregory 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr P W Mullins 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Hood + tongue tie 14 6 43% −0.70
None 4 0 0% −4.00
Tongue tie 3 0 0% −3.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2021 4 0 0% −4.00
2020 6 2 33% −2.81
2019 7 4 57% +3.11
2018 1 0 0% −1.00
2017 3 0 0% −3.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 10 4 40% +0.11
Chase 9 2 22% −5.81
NH Flat 1 0 0% −1.00
Flat 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORSpdKTB Jockey SP
2021 · 4 runs
06 Jun 21+49d Perth bet365 Sam Morshead Perth Gold Cup Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 3m · Good · 15 ran F/15 — 10-13 135—— Aidan Coleman 5/1
18 Apr 21+50d Ayr CPMS Novices' Champion Handicap Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 3m · Good · 13 ran 3/13 5 11-5 13568B129A A P Heskin 12/1
27 Feb 21+28d Kempton Close Brothers Handicap Chase (Grade 3) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 3m · Good · 17 ran 9/17 10 10-5 13794C101C A P Heskin 9/1
30 Jan 21+63d Doncaster Sky Bet Handicap Chase (Listed) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 3m · Soft · 11 ran 6/11 1¼ 10-9 13980C99C A P Heskin 11/1
2020 · 6 runs
28 Nov 20+13d Newcastle Betfair Exchange Rehearsal Handicap Chase (Listed) (GBB Race) Class 1 · 2m7½f · Good · 10 ran 6/10 3½ 10-7 13990A116A Aidan Coleman 6/1
15 Nov 20+47d Cheltenham mallardjewellers.com Novices' Chase (GBB Race) Class 2 · 3m½f · Soft · 5 ran 3/5 10 11-8 13953C121B A P Heskin 8/1
29 Sep 20+20d Bangor-on-Dee Betsafe Racing From Over 40 Countries Novices' Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 3m · Good · 5 ran 1/5 11-6 13998C133B A P Heskin 5/6F
09 Sep 20+30d Uttoxeter Final Furlong Podcast Novices' Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 2m4f · Good · 6 ran 2/6 ¾ 11-4 139—133B A P Heskin 5/2
10 Aug 20+149d Southwell Follow At The Races On Twitter Novices' Chase (GBB Race) Class 3 · 3m½f · Good · 3 ran 1/3 11-0 13988C128C A P Heskin 4/11F
14 Mar 20+119d Kempton Paddy Power Silver Plate Handicap Hurdle Class 2 · 2m5f · Good To Soft · 20 ran 2/20 1¾ 11-8 135122B142A A P Heskin 12/1
2019 · 7 runs
16 Nov 19+21d Cheltenham Spinal Injuries Association Big Buck's Handicap Hurdle (Listed) Class 1 · 3m · Soft · 10 ran 5/10 ½ 10-8 136—124A A P Heskin 3/1F
26 Oct 19+123d Cheltenham Randox Health Novices' Hurdle Class 2 · 3m · Heavy · 5 ran 2/5 4½ 11-6 136100C135B A P Heskin 7/2
25 Jun 19+20d Newton Abbot newtonabbotracing.com Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 2m5½f · Good · 8 ran 1/8 11-8 13686B125A A P Heskin 1/9F
05 Jun 19+11d Fontwell Sky Sports Racing Sky 415 Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m5½f · Good · 3 ran 1/3 11-12 131127C136C A P Heskin 6/4F
25 May 19+16d Cartmel Cartmel Sticky Toffee Pudding Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m6f · Good · 4 ran 1/4 11-4 118122C130B A P Heskin 7/4
09 May 19+18d Huntingdon MansionBet 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 2m4½f · Good · 6 ran 1/6 11-2 115130A134B A P Heskin 11/4
21 Apr 19+141d Market Rasen Ferry Ales Brewery Maiden Hurdle Class 5 · 2m4½f · Good · 7 ran 2/7 5 10-11 —123A113B Fergus Gregory 6/4
2018 · 1 run
01 Dec 18+363d Bangor-on-Dee DU Construction 'National Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 2m½f · Soft · 15 ran 6/15 1¾ 10-12 —125B109A A P Heskin 9/2
2017 · 3 runs
03 Dec 17+21d Leicester Fernie Novices' Hurdle Class 3 · 2m4½f · Soft · 10 ran 6/10 1 10-12 —104C102C A P Heskin 7/2
12 Nov 17+201d Sandown Bet 10 Get 20 At 188Bet Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 4 · 2m · Good To Soft · 10 ran 3/10 9 10-12 —126A115A A P Heskin 5/4F
25 Apr 17 Punchestown Dooley Insurances Flat Race 2m · Good To Yielding · 23 ran 2/23 ½ 11-7 ——85A Mr P W Mullins 11/2

Quick answers

How many races has The Butcher Said won?
The Butcher Said (IRE) won 6 of 21 archived starts between 2017 and 2021, a strike rate of 28.6%. Placed 13 times in total (61.9% of starts).
Who trained The Butcher Said?
The Butcher Said (IRE) was trained by Olly Murphy on the most recent run on record, at Perth on 6 June 2021.
Who is The Butcher Said's sire?
The Butcher Said (IRE) is by Robin Des Champs (FR) out of Georgina Valleya (IRE), whose sire is King's Theatre.
What going does The Butcher Said prefer?
The Butcher Said (IRE) has the best record on good going: 6 wins from 12 starts (50%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is The Butcher Said's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 135, from the run on 6 June 2021. The highest on record is 139.
What is The Butcher Said's sire's record?
Robin Des Champs (FR)'s progeny in our archive have won 13.3% of 4,007 runs since Jan 2008 (425 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are The Butcher Said's siblings?
Out of Georgina Valleya (IRE), The Butcher Said (IRE) has 5 other produce in our archive, 4 of them winners. Most wins: Carrarea (IRE) (4). Highest grade won: Class 4 (Carrarea (IRE)). The wins came over 1m7½f–3m. As at Nov 2026.

Record shown from April 2017. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Any runs before that, or in other countries, are not in it. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.