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Horse profile

Thereabouts (USA)

4yo gelding (at last run, Nov 2013) · Last trainer Michael Appleby · Last owner Martyn Elvin
by Singspiel (IRE) out of Around (GB) (Danehill)
19 runs · 8 courses · from May 2012
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 5 Nov 2013 — 4,733 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Nov 2013 · 3rd of 6 Last raced off OR 63
KTB Profile

Thereabouts (USA) is yet to win from 19 starts, though has placed 6 times. Best effort: 2nd of 7 at Southwell (AW) (Apr 2013). Last raced off 63, 9lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 19 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance OR ↓ 9lb off peak
Official rating63↓ 9lb off peak
63 63–72

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 78A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Nottingham, 2 Oct 2013 Official rating 63 at the last run, 5 Nov 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 19 figures · best 87A · median 76
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1087A80—
Good480A74.5—
Good to Firm380A76—
Soft267A64—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f886A79.5—
1m2f – 1m4f787A78—
6f – 7f473A70.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 19 figures from 19 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Singspiel (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 12% of 4,376 runs since Jan 2008 (378 horses).

Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 8.5% from 118.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm45920%+8—
Good to Firm86811913.7%+1.70 from 3
Good1,05410810.2%−1.80 from 4
Good to Soft4425111.5%−0.5—
Soft524519.7%−2.30 from 2
Heavy1722313.4%+1.4—
Standard (AW)1,26916513%+10 from 10
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f791721.5%+9.5—
6f – 7f4616013%+10 from 4
1m – 1m1f97311611.9%−0.10 from 8
1m2f – 1m4f1,61320212.5%+0.50 from 7
1m5f – 2m7889111.5%−0.5—
2m1f – 2m4f318309.4%−2.6—
2m5f – 3m118108.5%−3.5—
Over 3m2613.8%−8.2—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Around (GB) (Danehill)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Good So Far (USA) (1 win).

The wins came over 6f.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Good So Far (USA)516f—
Inca Drum (USA)20——
Brief Return (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 10 0 0% −10.00
Good 4 0 0% −4.00
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Soft 2 0 0% −2.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 5 14 0 0% −14.00
Class 6 5 0 0% −5.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Southwell (AW) 5 0 0% −5.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Nottingham 3 0 0% −3.00
Leicester 2 0 0% −2.00
Yarmouth 2 0 0% −2.00
Kempton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newmarket 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m – 1m1f 8 0 0% −8.00
1m2f – 1m4f 7 0 0% −7.00
6f – 7f 4 0 0% −4.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Andrew Mullen 9 0 0% −9.00
Martin Harley 4 0 0% −4.00
Philip Prince 1 0 0% −1.00
Toby Atkinson 1 0 0% −1.00
Mrs Carol Bartley 1 0 0% −1.00
Luke Morris 1 0 0% −1.00
Mirco Demuro 1 0 0% −1.00
Dane O'Neill 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 14 0 0% −14.00
Visor 3 0 0% −3.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 13 0 0% −13.00
2012 6 0 0% −6.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
05 Nov 13+21d Southwell (AW) Coral App Download From The App Store Claiming Stakes Class 6 · 11f · Standard · 6 ran 3/6 1¼ 8-8 6375B Philip Prince 7/2
15 Oct 13+13d Leicester Stewards Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Soft · 14 ran 10/14 1¼ 8-9 6561C Toby Atkinson 25/1
02 Oct 13+9d Nottingham 32redpoker.com Aja Lady Amateur Riders' Handicap Class 5 · 10f · Good · 10 ran 4/10 nk 10-11 6678A Mrs Carol Bartley 5/1
23 Sep 13+160d Leicester Henry Alken Classified Claiming Stakes Class 5 · 10f · Good · 9 ran 3/9 1¾ 9-5 6680A Andrew Mullen 6/1
16 Apr 13+13d Southwell (AW) 32red Casino Handicap Class 6 · 11f · Standard · 10 ran 3/10 1 9-7 6585A Andrew Mullen 7/2
03 Apr 13+8d Southwell (AW) 32red Casino Handicap Class 5 · 11f · Standard · 7 ran 2/7 ¾ 9-0 6387A Andrew Mullen 7/2
26 Mar 13+13d Southwell (AW) 32 Bonus At 32red.com Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 8 ran 3/8 4 9-5 6381A Luke Morris 7/4
13 Mar 13+14d Southwell (AW) Compare Bookmakers At Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Standard · 8 ran 2/8 7 9-0 6383A Andrew Mullen 4/1
27 Feb 13+9d Kempton (AW) Mix Business With Pleasure At Kempton Handicap Class 6 · 12f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 1¾ 9-4 6567A Andrew Mullen 9/2
18 Feb 13+9d Wolverhampton (AW) Download coral.co.uk Mobile App Handicap Class 6 · 9.5f · Standard · 12 ran 4/12 1¼ 9-7 6586A Andrew Mullen 5/2F
09 Feb 13+8d Wolverhampton (AW) Horseracing Free Bets At bookmakers.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 8.5f · Standard · 9 ran 3/9 ¾ 8-12 6579A Andrew Mullen 13/2
01 Feb 13+24d Wolverhampton (AW) Compare Bookies With bookmakers.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 8.5f · Standard · 9 ran 5/9 ¾ 9-3 6674A Andrew Mullen 10/1
08 Jan 13+140d Wolverhampton (AW) Claim Free Bets Today At Bookmakers.co.uk Handicap Class 5 · 7f · Standard · 9 ran 5/9 3 8-12 6670A Andrew Mullen 22/1
21 Aug 12+13d Yarmouth Pleasurewood Hills Maiden Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 4/10 4½ 9-5 6873A Martin Harley 6/1
08 Aug 12+12d Yarmouth Eastanglianambulance.org.uk Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Good · 6 ran 3/6 4½ 9-8 6971B Mirco Demuro 8/1
27 Jul 12+21d Newmarket Deyton Bell Transatlantic Business Development Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 5/8 1¼ 9-5 7280A Martin Harley 9/1
06 Jul 12+22d Doncaster Cardsave Lauran Binks & Rose Glynn Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 7f · Soft · 9 ran 5/9 hd 9-3 —67A Martin Harley 16/1
14 Jun 12+23d Nottingham Carling Zest Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 8.5f · Good · 13 ran 9/13 4 9-0 —53C Dane O'Neill 7/1
22 May 12 Nottingham Warren Board World Of Board Maiden Stakes (Div 2) Class 5 · 8.5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 4/10 1¼ 9-3 —76A Martin Harley 28/1

Quick answers

How many races has Thereabouts (USA) won?
Thereabouts (USA) has yet to win, from 19 archived starts between 2012 and 2013. Placed 6 times in total (31.6% of starts).
Who trained Thereabouts (USA)?
Thereabouts (USA) was trained by Michael Appleby on the most recent run on record, at Southwell (AW) on 5 November 2013.
Who is Thereabouts (USA)'s sire?
Thereabouts (USA) is by Singspiel (IRE) out of Around (GB), whose sire is Danehill.
What is Thereabouts (USA)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 63, from the run on 5 November 2013. The highest on record is 72.
What is Thereabouts (USA)'s sire's record?
Singspiel (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 12% of 4,376 runs since Jan 2008 (378 horses), Flat and jumps together. Weakest over 2m5f – 3m (all codes): 8.5% from 118.
Who are Thereabouts (USA)'s siblings?
Out of Around (GB), Thereabouts (USA) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Good So Far (USA) (1). The wins came over 6f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from May 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.