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Tobayornottobay (GB)

5yo mare (at last run, Aug 2011) · Last trainer Bruce Hellier · Last owner The Huntingdon Hopefuls
by Tobougg (IRE) out of Rose Bay (GB) (Shareef Dancer)
11 runs · 9 courses · from Nov 2010
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 19 Aug 2011 — 5,549 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2011 Last raced off OR 69
KTB Profile

Tobayornottobay (GB) is yet to win from 11 starts. Best effort: 4th of 6 at Bangor-on-Dee (Apr 2011). Last raced off 69, 8lb below the career-high mark.

Based on 11 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating (jumps) 73C the best of the last 3 rated runs · Kelso, 22 May 2011 Official rating 69 at the last jumps run, 19 Aug 2011

Best recent KTB Rating (flat) 34C the best of the last 2 rated runs · Southwell (AW), 27 Jan 2011

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 88B · median 72
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good588B73—
Good to Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m5f – 2m484C66.5—
2m5f – 3m1———
2m1f – 2m4f1———
Flat 2 figures · best 34C · median 31
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)234C31—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
1m – 1m1f1———
1m2f – 1m4f1———

Of 11 runs looked at, 3 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (3).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 8 figures from 11 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Tobougg (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 8.5% of 6,096 runs since Jan 2008 (464 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm67710.4%+1.9—
Good to Firm938788.3%−0.20 from 1
Good1,5271368.9%+0.40 from 7
Good to Soft864839.6%+1.10 from 1
Soft1,052938.8%+0.3—
Heavy384236%−2.5—
Standard (AW)1,264967.6%−0.90 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f2112110%+1.5—
6f – 7f1,2311159.3%+0.8—
1m – 1m1f826587%−1.50 from 1
1m2f – 1m4f898748.2%−0.30 from 1
1m5f – 2m1,332967.2%−1.30 from 5
2m1f – 2m4f953899.3%+0.80 from 3
2m5f – 3m539529.6%+1.10 from 1
Over 3m1061110.4%+1.9—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Rose Bay (GB) (Shareef Dancer)

5 siblings in the archive, 0 winners.

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Chamerion (GB)50——
Private Jessica (GB)140——
Loua (GB)80——
Buddy Brown (GB)60——
Bear With Rupert (GB)20——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good 7 0 0% −7.00
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Firm 1 0 0% −1.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 4 6 0 0% −6.00
Class 6 3 0 0% −3.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Bangor-on-Dee 2 0 0% −2.00
Uttoxeter 2 0 0% −2.00
Market Rasen 1 0 0% −1.00
Hexham 1 0 0% −1.00
Kelso 1 0 0% −1.00
Southwell (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Musselburgh 1 0 0% −1.00
Haydock 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
1m5f – 2m 5 0 0% −5.00
2m1f – 2m4f 3 0 0% −3.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00
1m – 1m1f 1 0 0% −1.00
1m2f – 1m4f 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Wayne Kavanagh 2 0 0% −2.00
Paul Callaghan 2 0 0% −2.00
Barry Keniry 2 0 0% −2.00
Gary Rutherford 1 0 0% −1.00
Paddy Mathers 1 0 0% −1.00
Adam Carter 1 0 0% −1.00
Mr Tom David 1 0 0% −1.00
Brian Hughes 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 8 0 0% −8.00
Tongue tie 2 0 0% −2.00
Blinkers 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2011 9 0 0% −9.00
2010 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Hurdle 7 0 0% −7.00
Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2011 · 9 runs
19 Aug 11+29d Bangor-on-Dee Berwyn Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 9 ran PU/9 — 9-11 69— Wayne Kavanagh 66/1
21 Jul 11+16d Uttoxeter musicmagpie.co.uk Novices' Handicap Hurdle (Div 1) Class 5 · 16f · Good · 12 ran 11/12 nk 9-12 7462C Gary Rutherford 66/1
05 Jul 11+11d Uttoxeter bet365.com Mares' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 20f · Good To Firm · 12 ran PU/12 — 9-11 74— Wayne Kavanagh 100/1
24 Jun 11+13d Market Rasen Pd Ports' Novices' Handicap Hurdle Class 4 · 16.5f · Good · 14 ran PU/14 — 9-13 77— Paul Callaghan 66/1
11 Jun 11+20d Hexham Teresa Duchett Mares' Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 16f · Good To Soft · 8 ran 7/8 18 10-5 —58C Paul Callaghan 40/1
22 May 11+23d Kelso Reece, Ben And Jessica Coppola Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 22.5f · Good · 9 ran 6/9 52 10-6 —73C Barry Keniry 80/1
29 Apr 11+92d Bangor-on-Dee Brooke Rankin Novices' Hurdle Class 4 · 19.5f · Good · 6 ran 4/6 9 10-6 —88B Barry Keniry 66/1
27 Jan 11+20d Southwell (AW) Membership Of Southwell Golf Club Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 6 ran 6/6 2 9-7 —34C Paddy Mathers 50/1
07 Jan 11+42d Wolverhampton (AW) Horizons Restaurant Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 12f · Standard To Slow · 9 ran 7/9 3½ 8-11 —28C Adam Carter 50/1
2010 · 2 runs
26 Nov 10+22d Musselburgh Border Safeguard Ltd Maiden Open NH Flat Race Class 5 · 15.5f · Good · 9 ran 5/9 15 10-2 —71A Mr Tom David 100/1
04 Nov 10 Haydock Haydock Mares' Standard Open NH Flat Race Class 6 · 15.5f · Good · 15 ran 14/15 13 10-12 —84C Brian Hughes 150/1

Quick answers

How many races has Tobayornottobay won?
Tobayornottobay (GB) has yet to win, from 11 archived starts between 2010 and 2011.
Who trained Tobayornottobay?
Tobayornottobay (GB) was trained by Bruce Hellier on the most recent run on record, at Bangor-on-Dee on 19 August 2011.
Who is Tobayornottobay's sire?
Tobayornottobay (GB) is by Tobougg (IRE) out of Rose Bay (GB), whose sire is Shareef Dancer.
What is Tobayornottobay's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 69, from the run on 19 August 2011. The highest on record is 77.
What is Tobayornottobay's sire's record?
Tobougg (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.5% of 6,096 runs since Jan 2008 (464 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Tobayornottobay's siblings?
Out of Rose Bay (GB), Tobayornottobay (GB) has 5 other produce in our archive, 0 of them winners. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2010. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.