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Horse profile

True Prince (USA)

4yo gelding (at last run, Oct 2013) · Last trainer Alastair Lidderdale · Last owner Lee Bolingbroke G Howard F Oconnor
by Yes It's True (USA) out of Whenthedoveflies (USA) (Dove Hunt)
21 runs · 9 courses · from Jul 2011
As at 22 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 23 Oct 2013 — 4,746 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Oct 2013 · 10th of 12 Won at Bath Last raced off OR 51
KTB Profile

True Prince (USA) is 1 from 21, the win coming at Class 6 level. Hasn't won since Sep 2012. The win came on turf — 0 from 13 on the all-weather.

Based on 21 archived runs · updated 22 Oct 2026
KTB at a glance Won on turf, 0 on AW Win at Class 6
Official rating51↓ 4lb off peak
51 45–55

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 69A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Wolverhampton (AW), 18 Oct 2013 Official rating 51 at the last run, 23 Oct 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 21 figures · best 84A · median 57
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
Standard (AW)1384A60—
Good to Firm559A57—
Good250C45—
Firm1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 22 Oct 2025
6f – 7f1484A58—
1m – 1m1f578A55—
1m2f – 1m4f240C37.5—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 21 figures from 21 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Yes It's True (USA)

Progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 238 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm5240%+32.91 from 1
Good to Firm4836.3%−0.80 from 5
Good3326.1%−10 from 2
Good to Soft17211.8%+4.7—
Soft1317.7%+0.6—
Heavy400%−7.1—
Standard (AW)11875.9%−1.20 from 13
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1000%−7.1—
6f – 7f9877.1%00 from 14
1m – 1m1f65913.8%+6.71 from 5
1m2f – 1m4f2900%−7.10 from 2
1m5f – 2m1616.3%−0.8—
2m1f – 2m4f1200%−7.1—
2m5f – 3m800%−7.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 22 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Whenthedoveflies (USA) (Dove Hunt)

No other produce in our archive. It holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from 2005, so siblings racing elsewhere won’t appear here.

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Standard (AW) 13 0 0% −13.00
Good to Firm 5 0 0% −5.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Firm 1 1 100% +16.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 17 1 6% +0.00
Class 5 2 0 0% −2.00
Class 4 1 0 0% −1.00
Class 2 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Kempton (AW) 8 0 0% −8.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 4 0 0% −4.00
Bath 2 1 50% +15.00
Brighton 2 0 0% −2.00
Thirsk 1 0 0% −1.00
Carlisle 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00
Goodwood 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 14 0 0% −14.00
1m – 1m1f 5 1 20% +12.00
1m2f – 1m4f 2 0 0% −2.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Silvestre De Sousa 3 0 0% −3.00
Fergus Sweeney 2 0 0% −2.00
Jim Crowley 2 0 0% −2.00
Sean Levey 2 1 50% +15.00
Eddie Ahern 2 0 0% −2.00
Tom Queally 2 0 0% −2.00
Jason Hart 1 0 0% −1.00
Daniel Tudhope 1 0 0% −1.00
Neil Farley 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Eaves 1 0 0% −1.00
Pat Dobbs 1 0 0% −1.00
Harry Bentley 1 0 0% −1.00
Seb Sanders 1 0 0% −1.00
Martin Lane 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
Blinkers 9 1 11% +8.00
None 9 0 0% −9.00
Tongue tie + cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00
Visor 1 0 0% −1.00
Cheekpieces 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 9 0 0% −9.00
2012 6 1 17% +11.00
2011 6 0 0% −6.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
23 Oct 13+5d Kempton (AW) Book Christmas Festival Tickets Now Classified Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 12 ran 10/12 ½ 9-7 5139A Fergus Sweeney 8/1
18 Oct 13+35d Wolverhampton (AW) 32RedBingo.com Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 12 ran 4/12 1 8-13 5269A Fergus Sweeney 25/1
13 Sep 13+81d Wolverhampton (AW) 32RedBingo.com Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard To Slow · 9 ran 7/9 8 8-9 5337C Jason Hart 8/1
24 Jun 13+18d Wolverhampton (AW) Talk To Victor Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 6/10 ½ 9-8 5561A Silvestre De Sousa 9/4F
06 Jun 13+3d Thirsk Racing UK Your Racing Home From Home Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Good To Firm · 17 ran 11/17 nk 9-3 5559A Daniel Tudhope 5/1F
03 Jun 13+27d Carlisle 32RedPoker.com Apprentice Handicap Class 5 · 8f · Good To Firm · 8 ran 6/8 1¼ 8-3 5555A Neil Farley 4/1
07 May 13+20d Kempton (AW) Irish Night On 10.07.13 Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 10 ran 2/10 nse 9-4 5184A Silvestre De Sousa 11/4F
17 Apr 13+68d Kempton (AW) Mascot Grand National 06.05.13 Handicap Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 12 ran 5/12 1½ 9-0 5361A Silvestre De Sousa 20/1
08 Feb 13+107d Wolverhampton (AW) Pick The Best Bookies At bookmakers.co.uk Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 10/10 1¾ 9-0 5324A Tom Eaves 7/1
24 Oct 12+34d Kempton (AW) Download The Free Racing Plus App Classified Stakes Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 12 ran 3/12 2 9-0 5367A Pat Dobbs 6/1
20 Sep 12+4d Kempton (AW) 32RedBingo Handicap (Div 2) Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 14 ran 11/14 ½ 8-12 4547A Jim Crowley 11/4F
16 Sep 12+33d Bath Bathwick Tyres Bridgend Handicap (Div 1) Class 6 · 8f · Firm · 10 ran 1/10 8-7 4578A Sean Levey 16/1
14 Aug 12+56d Bath Avon Handicap Class 6 · 11.5f · Good · 10 ran 8/10 11 8-7 4840C Sean Levey 12/1
19 Jun 12+83d Brighton Bet England, Betvictor Handicap Class 6 · 10f · Good To Firm · 15 ran 13/15 6 8-4 5135C Harry Bentley 14/1
28 Mar 12+147d Kempton (AW) Amigo Handicap Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 10/11 hd 9-1 5448A Jim Crowley 7/2J
02 Nov 11+13d Kempton (AW) Free Entry For Betdaq Members Nursery (Div 1) Class 6 · 8f · Standard · 10 ran 7/10 2¾ 8-11 5543A Seb Sanders 4/1F
20 Oct 11+38d Brighton Frosts Fireworks Here 4th November Nursery Class 5 · 7f · Good To Firm · 13 ran 7/13 ½ 8-1 5557A Martin Lane 16/1
12 Sep 11+18d Kempton (AW) 32 For Poker Nursery (Div 1) Class 6 · 7f · Standard · 11 ran 3/11 ½ 8-10 5460A Eddie Ahern 4/1
25 Aug 11+13d Lingfield (AW) Ladbrokes Mobile Median Auction Maiden Stakes (Div 1) (AW) Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 10 ran 4/10 ¾ 9-3 —68A Tom Queally 20/1
12 Aug 11+13d Newbury Don Deadman Memorial European Breeders' Fund Maiden Stakes (Div 1) (Str) Class 4 · 7f · Good · 15 ran 12/15 6 9-3 —50C Eddie Ahern 100/1
30 Jul 11 Goodwood Overtones E.b.f. 'schiaparelli' Maiden Stakes Class 2 · 7f · Good To Firm · 16 ran 15/16 1¼ 9-0 —57C Tom Queally 66/1

Quick answers

How many races has True Prince (USA) won?
True Prince (USA) won 1 of 21 archived starts between 2011 and 2013, a strike rate of 4.8%. Placed 4 times in total (19% of starts).
Who trained True Prince (USA)?
True Prince (USA) was trained by Alastair Lidderdale on the most recent run on record, at Kempton (AW) on 23 October 2013.
Who is True Prince (USA)'s sire?
True Prince (USA) is by Yes It's True (USA) out of Whenthedoveflies (USA), whose sire is Dove Hunt.
What is True Prince (USA)'s official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 51, from the run on 23 October 2013. The highest on record is 55.
What is True Prince (USA)'s sire's record?
Yes It's True (USA)'s progeny in our archive have won 7.1% of 238 runs since Jan 2008 (17 horses), Flat and jumps together.

Record shown from July 2011. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.