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Horse profile

Whatdoyousay (GB)

8yo gelding (at last run, Mar 2012) · Last trainer Oliver McKiernan · Last owner Redgap Partnership
by Overbury (IRE) out of Tapua Taranata (IRE) (Mandalus)
8 runs · 7 courses · from Nov 2008
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 8 Mar 2012 — 5,347 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Mar 2012 Won at Thurles Last raced off OR 108
KTB Profile

Whatdoyousay (GB) is 1 from 8. Hasn't won since Feb 2012. Last raced off a career-high mark of 108.

Based on 8 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 120A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Thurles, 23 Feb 2012 Official rating 108 at the last run, 8 Mar 2012

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Jumps 6 figures · best 120A · median 107
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Heavy4120A107—
Good to Soft2120A109.5—
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
2m1f – 2m4f3120A99—
1m5f – 2m3120A113—

Of 8 runs looked at, 2 have no figure: did not complete (or a non-runner row) (2).

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 6 figures from 8 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire
Overbury (IRE)

Progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 4,657 runs since Jan 2008 (423 horses).

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm17211.8%+1.1—
Good to Firm385379.6%−1.1—
Good1,45815010.3%−0.4—
Good to Soft898899.9%−0.80 from 2
Soft1,14412611%+0.30 from 1
Heavy6908712.6%+1.91 from 5
Standard (AW)6569.2%−1.5—
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f1000%−10.7—
6f – 7f20210%−0.7—
1m – 1m1f1616.3%−4.4—
1m2f – 1m4f29517.2%+6.5—
1m5f – 2m1,32113510.2%−0.50 from 3
2m1f – 2m4f1,64717610.7%01 from 4
2m5f – 3m1,25813610.8%+0.10 from 1
Over 3m3564211.8%+1.1—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Tapua Taranata (IRE) (Mandalus)

6 siblings in the archive, 3 winners — best of them Hellfire Club (GB) (3 wins).

The wins came over 2m–3m; the highest grade won is Class 3 (Hellfire Club (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Hellfire Club (GB)1532m½f–2m3½fClass 3
Battlefield (GB)2232m–2m3fClass 4
Co Optimist (GB)413mClass 4
Gentle Beau (GB)50——
Rich Hill (GB)30——
Llynfi (GB)10——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Heavy 5 1 20% +8.00
Good to Soft 2 0 0% −2.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 3 1 0 0% −1.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Clonmel 2 0 0% −2.00
Thurles 1 1 100% +12.00
Naas 1 0 0% −1.00
Fairyhouse 1 0 0% −1.00
Leopardstown 1 0 0% −1.00
Navan 1 0 0% −1.00
Newbury 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
2m1f – 2m4f 4 1 25% +9.00
1m5f – 2m 3 0 0% −3.00
2m5f – 3m 1 0 0% −1.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Tom Doyle 3 1 33% +10.00
Mr R P Quinlan 2 0 0% −2.00
Ger Fox 1 0 0% −1.00
Ms N Carberry 1 0 0% −1.00
John Cullen 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2012 5 1 20% +8.00
2011 1 0 0% −1.00
2008 2 0 0% −2.00

TypeRunsWinsSR£1
Chase 5 1 20% +8.00
NH Flat 2 0 0% −2.00
Hurdle 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2012 · 5 runs
08 Mar 12+14d Clonmel Martinstown Opportunity Handicap Chase (0-123) 20f · Soft · 14 ran F/14 — 10-11 108— Ger Fox 11/2
23 Feb 12+12d Thurles Horse And Jockey Handicap Chase (0-109) 18f · Heavy · 14 ran 1/14 10-12 95120A Tom Doyle 12/1
11 Feb 12+9d Naas Tote Daily Double Races 5 & 6 Beginners Chase 19f · Soft To Heavy · 16 ran 7/16 19 11-7 —95C Mr R P Quinlan 33/1
02 Feb 12+22d Clonmel Clonmel Festival Week Beginners Chase 16f · Heavy · 13 ran 3/13 18 11-12 —101C Tom Doyle 40/1
11 Jan 12+15d Fairyhouse Visit Fairyhouse.ie Beginners Chase 21.5f · Soft To Heavy · 13 ran PU/13 — 11-12 —— Tom Doyle 50/1
2011 · 1 run
27 Dec 11+1108d Leopardstown Paddypower.com On Your Mobile Flat Race 20f · Good To Yielding · 11 ran 9/11 5½ 11-9 —99C Mr R P Quinlan 20/1
2008 · 2 runs
14 Dec 08+16d Navan Glen Dimplex Future Champion (Pro-Am) Flat Race (Grade 2) 16f · Heavy · 8 ran 6/8 21 11-11 —113C Ms N Carberry 8/1
28 Nov 08 Newbury Fuller's London Pride 'National Hunt' Maiden Hurdle Class 3 · 16.5f · Good To Soft · 16 ran 6/16 2¾ 11-0 —120A John Cullen 14/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whatdoyousay won?
Whatdoyousay (GB) won 1 of 8 archived starts between 2008 and 2012, a strike rate of 12.5%. Placed 2 times in total (25% of starts).
Who trained Whatdoyousay?
Whatdoyousay (GB) was trained by Oliver McKiernan on the most recent run on record, at Clonmel on 8 March 2012.
Who is Whatdoyousay's sire?
Whatdoyousay (GB) is by Overbury (IRE) out of Tapua Taranata (IRE), whose sire is Mandalus.
What going does Whatdoyousay prefer?
Whatdoyousay (GB) has the best record on heavy going: 1 win from 5 starts (20%). Only going bands with at least three archived starts are read, so this is a direction rather than a settled preference.
What is Whatdoyousay's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 108, from the run on 8 March 2012. That is also the highest on record.
What is Whatdoyousay's sire's record?
Overbury (IRE)'s progeny in our archive have won 10.7% of 4,657 runs since Jan 2008 (423 horses), Flat and jumps together.
Who are Whatdoyousay's siblings?
Out of Tapua Taranata (IRE), Whatdoyousay (GB) has 6 other produce in our archive, 3 of them winners. Most wins: Hellfire Club (GB) (3). Highest grade won: Class 3 (Hellfire Club (GB)). The wins came over 2m–3m. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from November 2008. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.