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Whatwehavewehold (GB)

3yo gelding (at last run, Aug 2013) · Last trainer Alan McCabe · Last owner Ms Sara Hattersley
by Avonbridge (GB) out of Dancing Loma (FR) (Danehill Dancer)
9 runs · 7 courses · from Jul 2012
As at 28 Oct 2026 · KTB archive: GB, Ireland & France · 2005–present, updated daily
No run recorded since 20 Aug 2013 — 4,817 days ago. Our archive can't say whether the horse is still in training.
Last run Aug 2013 · 6th of 6 Last raced off OR 55
KTB Profile

Whatwehavewehold (GB) is yet to win from 9 starts, though has placed once. Best effort: 3rd of 7 at Yarmouth (Aug 2013).

Based on 9 archived runs · updated 28 Oct 2026
Official rating55↓ 3lb off peak
55 55–58

KTB Speed and Rating

KTB Speed

No KTB Speed figures for this horse. The engine scores GB and Irish racing from Oct 2016; runs elsewhere, or earlier, have no figure.

KTB Speed v1 · batch 15 Sep 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 0 figures from 0 runs · a record, not a forecast

KTB Rating

Best recent KTB Rating 60A the best of the last 3 rated runs · Yarmouth, 8 Aug 2013 Official rating 55 at the last run, 20 Aug 2013

What the horse achieved in each race, in pounds on the official-rating scale, from the weight carried, the lengths beaten and the race's own level solved across the archive — never the market, never the official rating as a starting point. The headline is the best of the horse's last three rated runs on that code. A, B or C on a run is how much known form was in that race. What this means →

Flat 9 figures · best 66A · median 53
GoingRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
Good to Firm360A25—
Standard (AW)253A52.5—
Good266A56.5—
Good to Soft1———
Soft1———
DistanceRunsBestMedianSince 28 Oct 2025
6f – 7f666A52.5—
Under 6f361A58—

KTB Rating v1 · batch 3 Oct 2026 · GB & Irish racing only · 9 figures from 9 runs · as at 4 Oct 2026 · a record, not a forecast

Both figures are KTB's own, computed from the archive; no vendor rating enters either. Every run's figure is on its form line below with its grade. Grades measure how much the archive could see, never the merit of the run.

Run style is derived from in-running commentary, which our data provider does not supply for this horse's races.

Pedigree intelligence

Sire

Progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 3,930 runs since Jan 2008 (262 horses).

Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 11.6% from 795.

GoingRunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Firm61813.1%+4.5—
Good to Firm732608.2%−0.40 from 3
Good757628.2%−0.40 from 2
Good to Soft382369.4%+0.80 from 1
Soft366236.3%−2.30 from 1
Heavy7245.6%−3—
Standard (AW)1,5601449.2%+0.60 from 2
Distance (all codes)RunsWinsSRvs sireThis horse
Under 6f7959211.6%+30 from 3
6f – 7f1,7581488.4%−0.20 from 6
1m – 1m1f641426.6%−2—
1m2f – 1m4f355236.5%−2.1—
1m5f – 2m242249.9%+1.3—
2m1f – 2m4f11276.3%−2.3—
2m5f – 3m2414.2%−4.4—
Over 3m300%−8.6—

Flat and jumps together (all codes) · since Jan 2008 · as at 28 Oct 2026 · rows under 30 runs muted · win % is the measure, a record not a forecast

Dam
Dancing Loma (FR) (Danehill Dancer)

3 siblings in the archive, 1 winner — best of them Loma Mor (GB) (1 win).

The wins came over 5f; the highest grade won is Class 5 (Loma Mor (GB)).

ProduceRunsWinsWin tripsBest grade
Loma Mor (GB)1315fClass 5
Devlin (GB)40——
On A Par (GB)100——

Record by conditions

GoingRunsWinsSR£1
Good to Firm 3 0 0% −3.00
Standard (AW) 2 0 0% −2.00
Good 2 0 0% −2.00
Good to Soft 1 0 0% −1.00
Soft 1 0 0% −1.00

ClassRunsWinsSR£1
Class 6 5 0 0% −5.00
Class 5 4 0 0% −4.00

CourseRunsWinsSR£1
Yarmouth 3 0 0% −3.00
Nottingham 1 0 0% −1.00
Lingfield (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00
Doncaster 1 0 0% −1.00
Thirsk 1 0 0% −1.00
Catterick 1 0 0% −1.00
Wolverhampton (AW) 1 0 0% −1.00

DistanceRunsWinsSR£1
6f – 7f 6 0 0% −6.00
Under 6f 3 0 0% −3.00

JockeyRunsWinsSR£1
Andrew Mullen 2 0 0% −2.00
David Probert 1 0 0% −1.00
Pat Dobbs 1 0 0% −1.00
Kieren Fallon 1 0 0% −1.00
Tom Eaves 1 0 0% −1.00
Daniel Tudhope 1 0 0% −1.00
Gary Phillips 1 0 0% −1.00
Andrea Atzeni 1 0 0% −1.00

HeadgearRunsWinsSR£1
None 6 0 0% −6.00
Cheekpieces 2 0 0% −2.00
Tongue tie 1 0 0% −1.00

SeasonRunsWinsSR£1
2013 8 0 0% −8.00
2012 1 0 0% −1.00

Splits include every sample, however small — muted rows are under 3 runs. A one-from-one record is a fact, not a trend: read the Runs column before the strike rate.

Form

DateCourseRace PosBtn Wgt ORKTB Jockey SP
2013 · 8 runs
20 Aug 13+4d Yarmouth Royal Marines Association - 'supporting Our Wounded' Maiden Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Good To Firm · 6 ran 6/6 8 8-8 5519C David Probert 6/1
16 Aug 13+8d Nottingham Freebets.co.uk Download Our Free Bets App Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Good To Soft · 11 ran 6/11 1¼ 9-1 5658A Pat Dobbs 12/1
08 Aug 13+22d Yarmouth Hoofbeats Tours Maiden Handicap Class 6 · 6f · Good To Firm · 7 ran 3/7 ½ 8-13 5660A Kieren Fallon 9/2
17 Jul 13+19d Lingfield (AW) Oilfield Offshore Underwriting Ltd Handicap (AWT) Class 6 · 6f · Standard · 11 ran 6/11 ¾ 8-13 5753A Andrew Mullen 4/1
28 Jun 13+10d Doncaster Gmb - Britain's General Union Handicap Class 5 · 6f · Good · 10 ran 3/10 1 8-10 5866A Andrew Mullen 50/1
18 Jun 13+69d Thirsk Read Hayley Turner Every Friday racinguk.com Handicap Class 6 · 5f · Good To Firm · 10 ran 10/10 4½ 9-1 5825A Tom Eaves 28/1
10 Apr 13+44d Catterick racinguk.com Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Good · 5 ran 5/5 ¾ 9-2 —47B Daniel Tudhope 5/2
25 Feb 13+229d Wolverhampton (AW) Find The Best Odds At Bookmakers.co.uk Maiden Stakes Class 5 · 6f · Standard · 7 ran 4/7 1 8-5 —52A Gary Phillips 10/1
2012 · 1 run
11 Jul 12 Yarmouth Casino At bet365.com Median Auction Maiden Stakes Class 6 · 5f · Soft · 9 ran 5/9 1¼ 9-3 —61A Andrea Atzeni 20/1

Quick answers

How many races has Whatwehavewehold won?
Whatwehavewehold (GB) has yet to win, from 9 archived starts between 2012 and 2013. Placed 1 time in total (11.1% of starts).
Who trained Whatwehavewehold?
Whatwehavewehold (GB) was trained by Alan McCabe on the most recent run on record, at Yarmouth on 20 August 2013.
Who is Whatwehavewehold's sire?
Whatwehavewehold (GB) is by Avonbridge (GB) out of Dancing Loma (FR), whose sire is Danehill Dancer.
What is Whatwehavewehold's official rating?
The most recent official rating on record is 55, from the run on 20 August 2013. The highest on record is 58.
What is Whatwehavewehold's sire's record?
Avonbridge (GB)'s progeny in our archive have won 8.6% of 3,930 runs since Jan 2008 (262 horses), Flat and jumps together. Strongest at trips under 6f (all codes): 11.6% from 795.
Who are Whatwehavewehold's siblings?
Out of Dancing Loma (FR), Whatwehavewehold (GB) has 3 other produce in our archive, 1 of them a winner. Most wins: Loma Mor (GB) (1). Highest grade won: Class 5 (Loma Mor (GB)). The wins came over 5f. As at Oct 2026.

Record shown from July 2012. Our archive holds racing in Great Britain, Ireland and France from January 2005. Runs in other countries are not in it, and earlier runs are not available from our data provider. In-running comments are available from 2024 onward.